14th May 2010

“For years, huge numbers of American Catholics have been fleeing to other religions or drifting into the category of 'lapsed Catholics,' who remain technically on the team but don't show up to practice.”

Patrick Boyle

16 Responses to “14th May 2010”

  1. PEB Says:

    The problem is that most people don’t “show up for practice” but still count themselves as christians or catholics. That gives religious leaders a far bigger influence on daily life than is deserved.
    When the pope recently visited Portugal, 80% of the population call themselves catholic but only 20% actually goto church.
    These people should tick the “None of the above” option and maybe they would find their governments giving religion the respect it deserves.

  2. Atheist MC Says:

    I don’t know the details, never having been a catholic, but anecdotally I’ve heard that the church makes it very difficult to get your name off their official register. Probably national census is a good way to stop being a statistic, at least in countries where they are done well and the results published.

  3. H t k a Says:

    I don’t think we as christians need to tell anyone what we believe,the we live our lives should be an open book. The way we live should be a testimony to what we believe and stand for.Talk sometimes is very cheap.

  4. Atheist MC Says:

    Absolutely right, what you believe is your own business. Just don’t go around telling everyone else they should believe it too.

  5. PEB Says:

    Has anyone on here been successfully debaptised? I hear the process is a pain but if it stops me being another christian statistic then I’m all for it.

  6. Bornagain A. Theist Says:

    “Fleeing to other religions” – what a crying shame. The flocks that are ‘leaving’ have evidently seen the flaws in their chosen or ‘born into’ religion. Why would they automatically presume that there is another religious choice that would contain any better dogma?


  7. John Says:

    It all comes from youthful conditioning, BAT. When one grows up in a cult it is hard to leave the reinforcement. Kind of like always seeking out being a victim… once abused.

  8. Holysmokes Says:

    Well said BAT. I think all people should utilize the “Baloney Test kit” like the one on the Hawkins website and ask themselves if they are giving honest answers.

    By the way, the http://www.RichardDawkins.net site came back up a few days ago.

  9. John Says:

    Kind of like what I call Disney marketing: The kid gets to sing, the manager gets the cream and the audience gets to dream.

  10. John Says:

    HolySmokes: That refers to my earlier quote. I had not entered Mr. Dawkins’s site yet.

    My mind is a trifle slow today… the party was great, the Scotch was smooth, the pot was tasty and the girl’s where enough to make a muslim wipe their bottoms with their books of old words. Life is great!!!

  11. solomon Says:

    Atheist MC ,

    You said “Just don’t go around telling everyone else they should believe it too.”
    If you can go around telling everyone not to believe in God then why can’t we do the opposite too?

  12. Holysmokes Says:

    The lack of evidence is on MC’s side.

  13. Holysmokes Says:

    Sooner or later Solomon it’s going to dawn on you that believing in something despite a complete lack of evidence is silly. You can keep asking, Who made the water that flushes my poo down the toilet,” or “Who left that that sticky goo on my backside after my bowel movement,” however that is not evidence. That is nothing more than you asking why and how. Guess what …that is exactly what science is attempting to find answers to. Stating something exists by default, simply because you do not have the answers is foolish. Tossing general questions out there for us to answer in the absence of any real evidence is not the way to go. Look for positive evidence.

  14. The Heretic Says:

    Solomon, we don’t go around telling people not to believe. We just tell them that we do not believe. Further, we do not wish that they push their beliefs on us or anyone else.

    When one sees a theist spewing their theology in public, it is quite safe to assume that they have other nasty habits as well.

  15. solomon Says:

    The Heretic,

    “Solomon, we don’t go around telling people not to believe. We just tell them that we do not believe.” Theres tons of evidence that your lots are telling people not to believe. Further, we too do not wish that they spout their non-beliefs on us or anyone else.
    They are not spewing nonsense. They are delivering truth to warn the people the danger one is going into. Theres no nasty habits whatsoever involved.

  16. ThatsaCrock Says:

    Get a life you guys.God will be your judge someday.Lets see you try and worm your way out of it then.