27th May 2010

“Religion, which is supposed to be about the search for eternal truths, should never be used as a means to oppress women. No man should seek the meaning of life in patriarchy. And no woman should accept any religion that assigns her a role that is at best secondary to men.”

Sheila Tobias

27 Responses to “27th May 2010”

  1. solomon Says:

    If the quote claim is true then let the womens go to wars and let the men take care of the babies.
    Whaaa..ka..ka…ka…

  2. solomon Says:

    There are two ways. One, the true ways, the other, the Lost ways. The unbelievers choses the Lost ways. Each time they go deeper & deeper into it until every sign or revelation opposes them. The only way to differentiate the unbelievers from the believers is….

    Unbelievers=’beast’
    Believers=human

  3. John Says:

    Is religion your choice of tools to use when you abuse woman? Is that why you are a muslim; so you can abuse people and women in particular and get away with it because of religion? On 24 May I asked you about hell. Hell appears to be in the minds of the religious my dear hate filled friend, preacher solomon. Look around you; why are you wasting your life following the dictates of some sick pedophile? Following those old Dark Ages lies, you will die the death of someone whom wasted their entire life only looking for hell in Humans and continuing to pass on only the worst of the Human experience to future generations. So sad; I have pity for you.

  4. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    Since we’re going out of our way to insult one another…

    Muslim = subhuman
    Islam = religion of swine
    Jihad = murder of innocents
    Mohammad = pedophile misogynist
    Mecca = shithole

    Only one of the above is true. I’ll leave it to your conscience, if it hasn’t been so damaged by your holy book, Sol, to pick which.

    Ok moderator, slip the cuffs on me.

  5. solomon Says:

    John,

    Theres no abusive of any sort in regards to women, in fact Islam have outlined the rights of women which have been denied before. Before Islam women is just an object of sex to cater for lusts. Can you cite which teachings in Islam that abuses women? When a women is legally married regardless of age then her husband is strip off the pedophile label.

  6. PEB Says:

    Apologies for feeding but this really does highlight the mentality of the religiously insane.
    “When a women is legally married regardless of age then her husband is strip off the pedophile label.”

    …so when a 14 year old girl is forced to marry then her ‘husband’ cannot be called a paedophile?

    sick, sick, sick.

    I don’t particularly like the quote. The author should have stopped at “And no woman should accept any religion” period. Male believers have to ignore huge amounts of common sense to order to have faith. Women believers have to ignore the same amount of common sense but also accept her ‘secondary’ role according to her beloved religious texts. Why any woman would choose to be religious is beyond?!

  7. Tony Zahra-Newman Says:

    I wonder why it is that the quote, which picks out no specific religion in particular, is automatically assumed to mean Islam?

  8. PEB Says:

    The full article is here:
    http://www.religion.dk/artikel/2786:Synspunkt–Religion-boer-ikke-undertrykke-kvinder

    The author is talking about all religions but Islam in particular is the worse offender when it comes to womens rights.

  9. solomon Says:

    PEB, accusing Islam just for the sake to satisfy your tounge. Religions teaches good morals and practice. Atheists teaches the despicable useless homosexual acts. One can easily recognise who are the evil and the swayed or lost lots.

  10. tech Says:

    John you stated earlier that the religious are always looking for Hell.Well I am trying my best to avoid it.However after reading a lot of the stuff found on this the atheist wants very much to go there.You like the heat do you?As for the quote I agree with it.My women as all women to me are treated with respect.My marriage Is 50/50 all the way.

  11. PEB Says:

    “PEB, accusing Islam just for the sake to satisfy your tounge.”

    Defend the next few statements:

    Under Sharia law women are considerend inferior to men.
    A woman counts as half a man in giving evidence in a court of law.
    A husband has the moral and religious right and duty to beat his wife (or wives)for disobedience.
    A woman does not have the right to choose her husband.
    The legal age of marriage in Iran is 9.
    The wife must have sex whenever the husband wishes.
    In many countries a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a non-Muslim man but Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women.
    Muslim women are not free to dress as they choose.

    Type “Women” and “Oppression” into google and the first suggested search result is “women oppression in islam”. This speaks volumes.

  12. tech Says:

    Peb ,we finally agree on something. Well said.

  13. solomon Says:

    PEB,

    All of your examples are arranged in such a way as to give a false impression of Islam as all of it are just fabricated lies. Cite one verse or hadith proving it so.

  14. PEB Says:

    OK

    The Quran in Sura 2:228 says:
    . . . Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status

    or if you’d like to give your wife a good beating then:

    Quran verse 4:34
    Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband’s absence, because God has of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them: but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: verily, God is High, Great!

    Or maybe you like to marry a 9 year old little girl:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

    Would you like me to carry on?

  15. solomon Says:

    Edmond,

    My respond is on the 25th May quote.

  16. John Says:

    See why preacher solomon needs to be pitied… as does his and other religious victims! The sad part about it is that when done in the name of god; even murder is righteous in muslim controlled countries.

  17. Atheist MC Says:

    Don’t single Islam out for Misogyny. Christianity is just as bad even if the more liberal Christians don’t practice it.

  18. solomon Says:

    These are verses from the true Qoran. The viewers can clearly see how it was twisted by irresponsible dudes.

    Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. (2:228)

    See how the Atheists recite only part of the whole verse to twist and manipulate its meaning.

    Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all). (4:34)

    See there no negative outcome whatsoever on gods words.

    PEB, you can carry on as much as you wish but your effort will be useless. Nobody can refute Gods words.

    The figures mention in the site is to be proven happening widely or commonly in reality.

  19. PEB Says:

    “(And last) beat them”?? Listen to yourself! The religion of peace tells men to lightly beat their wives. Do you think your god would encourage this abuse or is it more likely the Quran was written by men with big fists but small penises?

  20. solomon Says:

    Youre already out of argument. Let’s ignore this intoxicated PEB folks.

  21. PEB Says:

    It’s simple. Why does your god encourage it’s male followers to abuse women? The answer is of course that he doesn’t. He doesn’t exist.

  22. The Heretic Says:

    Because the men of that religion are savage and have no self-restraint. Instead of learning self-control like the rest of the civilized world, they make their women’s lives a living hell. These people (and I use that term loosely) need to have their deviant behaviors and their evil religion stopped.

  23. Atheist MC Says:

    The beating is irrelevent. The whoe passage is derogatory to women, so Sol has proved our point for us.

  24. Atheist MC Says:

    Whoops. The missing letter is an “L” honest!

  25. PEB Says:

    You are right about Christianity of course. According to genesis Eve was only created as an afterthought when Adam was lonely. God must have forseen this because he gave man a penis and the ability to make sperm (so why didn’t he create Adam and Eve at the same time?!?!)
    Then of course Eve went on to commit the original sin and….

    (Genesis 3:16) – “To the woman He said, ‘I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you shall bring forth children; Yet your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you.”

  26. John Says:

    Very true Atheist MC; I did omit the christians as well as the others, my bad. As for my case… it is rested as the defendants admitted it is a whole core to their faith via their postings.

    “Hell” you say, tech; look at the way the assault continues on non believers! As for Hells existence; where is the proof? There has not been a single thing that has happened before or since those old dirty books surfaced that can physically prove anything! All there is, are those books and the faith that it was “supposed” to have happened. The billions of people that have lived and died over the last 1500 years have just died. Period!

  27. solomon Says:

    PEB is simply lying viewers. Get the prove from him that god is encouraging male followers to abuse women.