30th May 2010

“Religions are cultural artifacts. We make God, not the other way round.”

Iain Banks

23 Responses to “30th May 2010”

  1. NoReflection Says:

    SO THEN LETS ALL GET TOGETHOR AND UNCREATE HIM ,THERE ARE ONLY A FEW BIG FISH`S . THE REST OF US SHOULD JUST EAT THEM UP , A NEW BEGINNING IT`S THE ONLY WAY

  2. solomon Says:

    If its the other way round then how do you explain your existence? A toy exists without a toy maker? The Atheists are quick when it comes to follow some silly quotes. What do the author of the quotes care,he’s only interest is selling his books and gaining wealth. Its the religious who cares about faith and fate.

  3. solomon Says:

    Sorry…it should be…If its not the other way round…

  4. Holysmokes Says:

    The quote is perfectly accurate.

    Solomon: A toy without a toy maker? Would that be like a God, without a god maker? Your short-sighted circular argument is really getting gold. Follow common sense and evidence.

  5. solomon Says:

    Questioning ‘a God, without a god maker’ is like imagining “is there a limit to these universe? If not, what comes beyond that?” God is a complex existence that one could’nt rely on ones thought. Its all REASONING folks.

  6. solomon Says:

    Theres so much evidence but the Atheists prefer the Lost path. HELL is justs for them.

  7. GodKilla Says:

    A perfectly succinct quote from an original and intelligent person. Of couse it’s true that much is perfeclty obvious. BTW we could also say that hell isn’t waiting for us because it is made by you.

  8. solomon Says:

    GodKilla, Some silly writer does’nt deserve the intelligent label.Can’t you see the blazing flame of the Sun? Is’nt there a possibility a place call Hell exists somewhere. God have proved such place apt to exist.

  9. Grumpy Old Git Says:

    I happen to believe Iain Banks post is spot on. Live with it, Solomon.

  10. Holysmokes Says:

    Solomon,

    You claim that something must have created the universe. You say it’s a god. Then it logically follows that something must have created your god as well. Then something created whatever came before that. It’s a never ending illogical argument that you should wrap your brain around.

    We KNOW that the universe is here because we can use our senses, tools and science to analyze it. We do not KNOW that a god is here, because we have no way to verify it, nor is there any available evidence. Your argument is ass backwards and illogical. You use negative reasoning to bolster your case. Who created the rain? What created the moon? Well who says anyone did? Simply saying that something MUST have created all the wondrous things around us shows just how limited your thought processes really are.

    You seen to want ALL the answers from science right here and now. Show some patience and use some common sense. Science will eventually figure these things out. They do not PRESUME to have all the answers like your religion. There is no crime in honestly admitting a lack of knowledge. That is something your religion can learn from. Failure to learn = blind arrogance. Where does your religion stand?

  11. Rozmarija Grauds Says:

    Humans will never fully accept the fact of their own mortality. People will always invent gods in order to identify WITH them, to feel assured that their consciousness will not be snuffed out. Me? I’m for the more important, meaningful job of “helping” the worms and beetles nourish new life after the demise of my psyche.

  12. solomon Says:

    Holysmokes,

    You or the unbelievers are only using science coz its your only tools for the time being that you can figure out to refute God. For believers its just a worn out, outdated useless tools compared with the REASONING that God have outlined but refused to accept by your lots.
    When reasons tells us there must be a creator to every wondrous complicated things, no amount of science or evidence is longer needed.

    Have I or have’nt I clarify that God does’nt work like what your weak brains wants it to be. Its because you don’t want to accept theres a more intelligent or superior deity than your lots that it becomes hard for you to accept reasoning.

    Does’nt it ever occur to you of all the heavenly bodies like the planets or the moons only the Earth have countless & varieties living creatures as if theres a big hand locating it there. Aa…aa..don’t try mentioning negligible traces of life yet to be prooved exist profoundly or some stupid weather or climate excuses that is not conducive for life on other planets.

    Can nature figure this all out?

  13. The Heretic Says:

    In short….YES.

  14. Atheist MC Says:

    So what are you going to do if and when life on other planets is found?

  15. barb Says:

    pray that they are peaceful. haha

  16. John Says:

    Old solomon blurts out what will someday prove to be the last gasps of a dying believe system of fanciful wish myths.

  17. tech Says:

    Such wit and knowledge. I believe there is life on other planets.To say other wise is putting limit on God Almighty.I,m glad I have nothing to prove to anyone.

  18. solomon Says:

    They all are just out of argument. Wha…ka..ka.ka

  19. Ryedo Says:

    “A toy exists without a toy maker?” – solomon

    So, do you think the fluff under my bed needs a fluffer god? – I mean, as far as I’m aware, the fluff (a mix of dust and other less complex foreign bodies) naturally accumulates into a more complex structure without the need for a fluffer god; or bed trolls and demons. And let’s not forget the cave: caves are complex structures – yet I don’t seem to recall seeing cave gods or cave trolls building caves; it just seems to be another natural process.

    Now, what if you were to expand on this: no God required for building caves and/or creating fluff balls – no god required for creating the universe or anything else? Everything just the natural state of affairs; no god required.

    “You or the unbelievers are only using science coz its your only tools for the time being that you can figure out to refute God.” – solomon

    Well, although I have little interest in science (even while enjoying its fruits), at least you admit that science refutes your god.

    “When reasons tells us there must be a creator to every wondrous complicated things,…” – solomon

    Reason tells me that cave gods don’t build caves. Likewise, reason tells me that fluff gods, or fluff demons, don’t build COMPLEX fluff balls under my bed. Why should I assume your god exists and does anything you claim?

    “Have I or have’nt I clarify that God does’nt work like what your weak brains wants it to be.” – solomon

    No, not really. In fact, you haven’t even clarified the existence of a god. All you done is spout a few claims.

    “Its because you don’t want to accept theres a more intelligent or superior deity” – solomon

    Apart from not giving a monkeys about whether a superior deity exists or not; why not prove your claim a superior deity exists? Until you provide anything substaintial, I take your claim for what it is: a claim and nothing more.

    “Does’nt it ever occur to you of all the heavenly bodies like the planets or the moons only the Earth have countless & varieties living creatures as if theres a big hand locating it there.” – solomon

    If life is going to exist, it’s going to exist here or somewhere else; in other words, wherever the conditions are suitable, life may flourish. Of course, I’d still like you to prove, like you claim, that life only exists on the Earth? Or is that just another claim?

  20. tech Says:

    The fluff balls under your bed came as a result of not being cleaned for a long period of time.Get out the vacuum.

  21. GoodWithoutGod Says:

    tech, I think there are some fluff balls in your brains.

    Don’t fondle them….maybe some priest will suck them up for you?

  22. solomon Says:

    Ryedo,

    I think I don’t have to answere any of your silly arguments. Its too chicken feed & boring & are just a waste of time.

  23. GoodWithoutGod Says:

    Solomon, maybe you can help tech with his fluffy balls?