3rd June 2010

“Evangelicals have identified their movement with the culture war and political conservatism. This will prove to be a very costly mistake.”

Michael Spencer

10 Responses to “3rd June 2010”

  1. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    Well, lets hope so. As a centrist, this really pisses me off because it deprives me of center right candidates to choose from since only religiously crazy people, that is to say, social conservatives, can survive Republican primaries in the U.S. I very much hope that fiscal conservatives ask for a divorce from the crazy asshole Fred Phelps types that have been steering the ship. They had better – demographics are NOT moving in their direction.

  2. solomon Says:

    Fred Phelps, I admire his sincerity.

  3. GoodWithoutGod Says:

    Deep down Fred Phelps is a really good man. Like, six feet down.

  4. Braathwaate Says:

    Karl Rove made a deal with the devil to get Bush elected & the Republican party is paying the price.

  5. The Heretic Says:

    I also wish that Republicans would divorce themselves from the Christian Conservative movement. But, religion always weedles its way into political power with some angle or another. (We won’t bring up the Vatican.) As a libertarian, I usually overlook the Republican religious leanings because I am a fiscal conservative.

    As for the Republican Party paying a price, Braathwaate – have you seen what has happened to the Democrat party in the last year? They will be lucky if any of them have jobs by the mid-term elections.

  6. Braathwaate Says:

    I don’t think the Republican party can divorce themselves from the Christian Conservative movement. They may make some gains in the mid-term but I think it will be many years before we see another Republican President

  7. Bornagain A. Theist Says:

    “Fred Phelps, I admire his sincerity”

    This sort of mindless drivel reminded me of something.

    It is the theory that there is goodness in everyone, regardless of the bad or evil that they show or are known for. Thus it might be postulated that people like Ruhollah Khomeini, Idi Amin Dada, Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler & Josef Stalin are examples of what is being referred to in the classic line from Julius Caesar which reads, “The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones.”

    It seems to me that while it may be true, i.e. that there may be some hidden feature that is present in Fred Phelps (and all of the others mentioned) that could be called “good”, that it is totally irrelevant when it comes to how a rational person views these individuals.

    And while it is not always appropriate, “guilt by association” is a bellwether sometimes.

    So, solomon, since you tend to support the very worst ideologies and people that exist, what good will be interred in your bones? Try to give this a thoughtful answer. All the atheists that you love to hate are kinder, have more thoughtful and responsible philosophies and are generally better people than you show out to be. So tell us; what is there about you that is “good”?


  8. Holysmokes Says:

    Captain & Heretic,

    I’m in the same camp as both of you. I lean hard towards social and fiscal conservatism, but cannot bring myself to vote for any of these fundies. I can only hope that a republican candidate will come along who can filter out the religious nonsense. Perhaps we can start a new political party. How does one called the “Fiscal And Responsible Team,” sound? It makes a great acronym.

    Sometimes I crack myself up!

  9. Bornagain A. Theist Says:



  10. solomon Says:

    BAT, I have a very simple answere to your question. To be good is to look good in the eyes of god. One cannot interpret oneself that he has been good all along. It’s just not enough. There are other criterias that have to be included that god knows its benefits to humans.