12th June 2010

“There is really no necessary connection between contemporary civilised values and sacrificial religious doctrines originating in the Middle East. The primitive sacrificial element which was brutally emphasised by Christ's crucifixion, is clearly indicated by the earlier compulsion of Abraham to make a blood sacrifice of his son to Jehovah. Modern civilised values have an earlier origin in pre-Christian thought in ancient Greece and the principle of Confucius 500 years earlier, that what you do not like done to yourself, do not to others.”

David Purves

12 Responses to “12th June 2010”

  1. solomon Says:

    Firstly I like to correct some manipulations.

    ‘Abraham to make a blood sacrifice of his son to Allah.’
    Actually sacrificial act did’nt happened at the end. This is only a test to Abraham, to show his undivided loyalty to Allah, even to give up his most precious belongings. After Allah has assure of Abraham’s loyalty, God substitute the sacrifice with a lamb. Different from the Jesus storey. The fake Jesus is murdered by his enemies. Actually the one who is crucified is not Jesus. Its another man who looks like him. This is the real story for those who have no knowledge of it.

  2. solomon Says:

    sorry…storey should be story

  3. John Says:

    Either way you spell it old sollie, it is all still; when all is said and done just an old tired story told by men who thought something supernatural was happening when the wind blew their skirts in the wind…

  4. solomon Says:

    Thats all you can say John, not a sound argument.

  5. PEB Says:

    So your omnipotent god Allah is powerful enough to create the universe but not powerful enough to know how loyal Abraham is? An omnipotent being would know this information without the need for a test.
    Just another unpleasant story.
    As for the quote then the bible or Quran is the last place you should look for any civilised values.

  6. solomon Says:

    God knows whats goin to happen before or after an event you lousy PEB. The event happening to Abraham is for everybody to know or witness it and as an example of a loyal subject. If the event did’nt happen how could we all gets its message.

  7. solomon Says:

    homosex=uncivilized acts

    Don’t talk about civilized values.

  8. Devout Atheist Says:

    Peb
    I never could understand why an “all powerful god” wanted animals killed either. What purpose other than sadistic pleasure could be derived from these acts?
    If there really was a god like this, I believe I would choose worshipping the devil. At least you know his intentions.

  9. Rozmarija Grauds Says:

    Solomon, what causes you to be prejudiced against men and women who are born homosexual? We would have very little civilization were it not for the many homosexual men and women throughout history whose talents brought forth the most profound philosophies, the most magnificent works of art, the greatest music, the most inspiring literature? There appears to be that extra spark of creativity and insight in individuals whose gender identity and orientation goes beyond the mere function of procreative drive.

  10. Rozmarija Grauds Says:

    Solomon- let me name a few gays in history – Florence Nightingale, Lord Kitchner, Leo Tolstoy, Emily Dickinson, Walt Whitman,Alan Turing, Socrates, Sophocles, Stephen Foster, King David, St Augustine, Cole Porter,Willa Cather, Edvard Grieg, Eleanor Roosevelt,Aristotle, Richasrd Lion Heart, Margaret Meade, Hans Christian Anderson,Thornton Wilder, Oscar Wilde, Mary Renault, Poroust,and the possible pair of lovers Lafayette and George Washington. To name a few

  11. solomon Says:

    Rozmarija Grauds,
    The world could flourish without those despicables individuals who depends on homo addictions to aquire inspirations.They are just like drug addicts, depending on drugs.There are countless muslim individuals that have contribute to civilization and society in the field of science,medicine,philosophy or mathematics.They need not have to depend on those USELESS despicable acts.

  12. solomon Says:

    Atheists=gay=agents of SATAN.
    They follow whatever SATAN directs them.