22nd June 2010

“The idea that people's beliefs, merely by being deeply held, merit respect is grotesque. A constitutional society upholds freedom of speech and thought: it has no interest in its citizens' feelings. If it sought to protect sensibilities, there would be no limit to the abridgements of freedom that the principle would justify.”

Oliver Kamm

11 Responses to “22nd June 2010”

  1. holysmokes Says:

    I think this statement is accurate. If governments tried to appease everyone’s sensitivities, their laws would need to expand several fold. Being “too politically correct” can quickly get ridiculous. Moreover, governments who incorporate religion into their laws are almost always poorly designed and operated. We can witness Islamic nations as classic examples.

  2. Margaret Says:

    “political correctness” can be used as a tool to take away freedoms. In countries that have an Islamic minority, there tends to be little political unrest. Once the percentage of Muslims grow, then they start using “political correctness” to demand more Islamocentric policies, and any resistance to them elicits cries of discrimination. They use the freedoms they have in Western civilized societies to try to take away the freedom, to subjugate all citizens to their brutal ideology.

    I received an interesting email that illustrates this point, a sobering look at our future if we allow “political correctness” to trample freedom of thought:
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    Don Morris writes at Doc’s Talk (thanks to Janet Levy): …As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States — Muslim 1.0%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%

    Canada — Muslim 1.9%

    China — Muslim 1%-2%

    Italy — Muslim 1.5%

    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%

    Germany — Muslim 3.7%

    United Kingdom — Muslim 2. 7%

    Spain — Muslim 4%

    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

    They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

    France — Muslim 8%

    Philippines — Muslim 5%

    Sweden — Muslim 5%

    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%

    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana — Muslim 10%

    India — Muslim 13.4%

    Israel — Muslim 16%

    Kenya — Muslim 10%

    Russia — Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%

    Chad — Muslim 53.1%

    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania — Muslim 70%

    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

    Egypt — Muslim 90%

    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%

    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

    Iran — Muslim 98%

    Iraq — Muslim 97%

    Jordan — Muslim 92%

    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

    Pakistan — Muslim 97%

    Palestine — Muslim 99%

    Syria — Muslim 90%

    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of “Dar-es-Salaam” — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

    Somalia — Muslim 100%

    Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

    “Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, “The Haj”…

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

  3. The Heretic Says:

    Excellent piece. Everyone should be terrified of Islam and its members. We need to stop their march – or there is going to be a lot more death and distruction until we wise up. We cannot appease them and we should not tolerate them.

  4. holysmokes Says:

    I’m afraid that it’s far too late to stop them. I’ve seen a few articles which claim Islam as the fastest growing major religion in the world. The best we can hope for is for science to out pace this plague by coming up with more then a few answers about life and it’s origins.

  5. Rozmarija Grauds Says:

    You notice the countries with the largest % of people having the Muslim religion, and GUESS what kind of schools which are IN those countries. Not very comprehensive studies, you bet. Traditionally in a Muslim elementary school, first in the program is that children memorize the Koran word for word. I was really surprised at Turkey’s statistic, unless it is like America’s 84% religious statistic, and unless it’s very recent. Friends wsho had travelled in Turkey called it very secular overall, but that was 15 years ago. There is a difference in the intensity of a religion’s literal pervasiveness in a culture, and the ‘cultural presence’ of a religion within a sciety. The point is not to attack Muslims per se, it ios to introduce a more modern, comprehensive system of education the young in the most potentially “explosive” fundamenrtalist countries. Our society faces a threat from the Extreme Right Baptist Fundamentalists as well, withy regard to equal rights and freedoms, and their not fooling around with our textbooks, as is done in Texas where the pubkishing houses are located.

  6. Rozmarija Grauds Says:

    “Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the
    people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe, their minds must be improved to a certain degree.” –Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

    “Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them
    to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and
    they will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of
    education to convince them of this. They are the only sure
    reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” –Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787.

    “Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with
    their own government.” –Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789.

    “Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, the
    people, if well informed, may be relied on to set them to rights.”
    –Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789.

    “A system of general instruction, which shall reach every
    description of our citizens from the richest to the poorest, as
    it was the earliest, so will it be the latest of all the public
    concerns in which I shall permit myself to take an interest.”
    –Thomas Jefferson to Joseph C. Cabell, 1818.

    “The tax which will be paid for [the] purpose [of education] is
    not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid to kings,
    priests and nobles who will rise up among us if we leave the
    people in ignorance.” –Thomas Jefferson to George Wythe, 1786.

    “Nature has wisely provided an aristocracy of virtue and talent
    for the direction of the interest of society, and scattered it with
    equal hand through all its conditions.” –Thomas Jefferson:
    Autobiography, 1821.

    “It becomes expedient for promoting the public happiness that
    those persons, whom nature has endowed with genius and virtue,
    should be rendered by liberal education worthy to receive, and
    able to guard the sacred deposit of the rights and liberties of
    their fellow citizens; and that they should be called to that
    charge without regard to wealth, birth or other accidental
    condition or circumstance.” –Thomas Jefferson: Diffusion of
    Knowledge Bill, 1779.

    “If the condition of man is to be progressively ameliorated, as
    we fondly hope and believe, education is to be the chief
    instrument in effecting it.” –Thomas Jefferson to M. A. Jullien,
    1818.

    “The main objects of all science [are] the freedom and happiness
    of man.” –Thomas Jefferson to Thaddeus Kosciusko, 1810.

    “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of
    civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”
    –Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816.

    “No other sure foundation can be devised for the preservation of
    freedom and happiness… Preach a crusade against ignorance;
    establish and improve the law for educating the common people.
    Let our countrymen know that the people alone can protect us
    against the evils [of misgovernment].” –Thomas Jefferson to
    George Wythe, 1786.

  7. Margaret Says:

    There was actually supposed to be 4 branches of govt–THE PEOPLE being the 4th, who were supposed to be involved citizens who kept their elected officials accountable. The people fell down on the job, and lobbyists, and religious officials, and lobbyists and religious officials who used each other for their own selfish gain, were more than willing to speak for the people, even though they do not speak for the people’s best interests.

    The Religious Right, and it’s alliance with ultrawealthy corporate interests did a great marketing job, getting Americans to vote against their own interests, “It’s ok if you suffer, Jesus wants you to suffer,” apparently. As more people recognize this, and no longer give religion a free pass, maybe this country can quit circling the drain. But frankly, I am pessimistic.

  8. The Heretic Says:

    Margaret you have been misled by propaganda. Your connection between corporations and religious right is a pile of crap. Wall Street gave multiple times more money to Democrats than Republicans. You can check that fact. Near all of the wealthiest members of Congress are Democrats – you can check that fact too. All corporations have ever done for this country are: feed it, clothe it, give people jobs and health insurance, and provide infrastructure that is the envy of the world. Those criminals!!

  9. solomon Says:

    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    A peace loving rich muslim state. No turmoil at all. Would that be a good model.

  10. The Heretic Says:

    NO.

  11. solomon Says:

    Why NOT?