27th September 2010

“Especially for young people, it’s harder to be a Christian in society than it was when I was a teenager. I grew up almost in the last days of Christendom, where most of my friends belonged to a church and we didn’t feel we were swimming against the tide. Now it takes a lot more independence and courage to be a Christian.”

Archbishop Rowan Williams

13 Responses to “27th September 2010”

  1. Atheist MC Says:

    …but no less credulity.

  2. GrumpyOldGit Says:

    Independence & courage? What about logical thought and the laws of probability as a starting point?

  3. teddy Says:

    YAY !!!!!!!!……………..for grumpy old git

  4. try....... Says:

    and sometimes…it takes independence and courage to NOT be a christian

  5. Dan Says:

    … and I suppose it would take independence and courage to insist that the Sun revolves around the Earth nowadays. But so what?

  6. tech Says:

    I agree with the Quote. Any old fish can swim down stream.However a good strong fish can and will swim up stream.

  7. Hypatia Says:

    “Now it takes a lot more independence and courage to be a Christian.”

    Not as much courage as it took to be a non-believer for the past 2000 years. AFAIR there are currently no death penalties in England for expressing Christian beliefs.

  8. Ernie Says:

    I do not agree. It plays in to the built in victim mentality of Christianity. Christians are the majority in my country at least. I would not be surprised to find Christians that never come into contact with an argument against their beliefs especially among young people who are sheltered within home schooling and church oriented activities.

  9. Dan Says:

    Ernie,
    You’re right of course, it does play into the standard religious persecution complex. Thankfully we know that it’s a lie – Christians aren’t being persecuted anywhere in the Western world, just perhaps being criticized a little bit. And there’s certainly no harm in that.

  10. Sean Says:

    “Especially for young people, it’s harder to be a bullshit in society than it was when I was a teenager. I grew up almost in the last days of bullshitdom, where most of my friends belonged to a sewer and we didn’t feel we were swimming against the tide. Now it takes a lot more independence and courage to be a bullshit.”

  11. teddy Says:

    sean…..your comment was wonderful !!

    ever considered working in advertising or P.R. ????

    I think you’ve got the RIGHT STUFF !!!!!!!!!

  12. robb Says:

    say, has anyone checked out the developing story on
    Pastor Eddie Long…………..

    now there’s a guy with some REAL independence and courage !!!!

  13. GreatEighthSin Says:

    @Robb I say Pastor Long should run for Pope. He’s already got half the makings 😀

    This is definitely something you can’t say in America quite yet. Stigma against atheists is still very real here. Luckily, the next generation are watching these tea-partiers and radicals and waking up to the realization that God doesn’t kill people, people with Gods kill people. What’s better, is that they’re not atheists to rebel, but they’re atheists that are educated and know their stuff quite well.