“I would rather burn in the fires of hell than prostrate myself before the god that created it.”
Anon.
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This quote reflects also my thoughts, on Christianity and Judiasm at least. That is, if the deity omnipotent and all-knowing deity of the Book of Job does in fact exist, he or she is simply shameless. A deity that could kill everyone I love on a bet doesn’t have my respect, and I sure as hell wouldn’t worship that god.
AtheistMC,
Well yes, I won’t lose sleep either. I’m just saying that if you absolutely must believe in the boogeyman, it doesn’t make any sense to worship the Judeo-Christian boogeyman.
Although if you are unfortunate enough to believe in the J/C boogeyman it would be prudent to worship him even though he doesn’t deserve it.
I know we know all the counter arguments to Pascal’s wager, but Yahweh obviously doesn’t.
Bleh – this always appears to me to be the metaphysical equivalent of division by zero. Such a waste of time. Needless to say, if in my travels I ran across an angel with a burning sword making some what-until-then-seemed-stupid demand of me, a great many things would change in my life thereafter, including, possibly, what I thought was stupid.
also, i’m thinking the guy who came up with this dopey quote HAD
to realize how stupid and screwed up it is…..
SO HE DIDNT PUT HIS NAME ON IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve heard this before and it seems nonsensical to me. If you had good evidence that there was an actual Hell and it was avoidable by simply adding ‘I believe in god’ to the good life you’re trying to lead anyway, then you’d be silly not to do it. Problem is, there’s no evidence at all. So you’re left with just living a good life and hoping that God, if she exists, isn’t the monster that people have made her out to be. Only a monster devises infinite punishment for finite ‘sins’.
Theists always assume that the the god they believe in is the right one (even if they don’t actually know what their god really stands for) consequently the quote is nonsense. If they believe in a hell threatening sadist that demands worship. it is stupid not to worship it. This is the point about Pascal. His a-priori assumption was that the god you ought not to bet against was the Judeo Christian god, His wager falls down if you are aware that multiple or zero gods are hypothesised by many.
However to say that you believe in a particular god but would not at least attempt to obey it, is ridiculous.
Ahh.. Gotta love the whole “I love you, now go to Hell heathen” bit. A king can chop off a man’s head after that man called the king a name, and be considered a wrathful king. Yet, God can send a man down to be tortured for all eternity just because that man spoke blasphemously, and God can still be considered as an all loving being worthy of praise and worship. Obviously God never got the whole “sticks and stones” talk from His parents.
Edmond,
Did’nt I mention “comparison”. Is that too hard to be understood. If theres a place with huge hurling fires as of the sun, one should have no excuse to deny a place called HELL!
September 30th, 2010 at 11:20
This quote reflects also my thoughts, on Christianity and Judiasm at least. That is, if the deity omnipotent and all-knowing deity of the Book of Job does in fact exist, he or she is simply shameless. A deity that could kill everyone I love on a bet doesn’t have my respect, and I sure as hell wouldn’t worship that god.
September 30th, 2010 at 11:43
Well yes I suppose. But as there is neither hell nor gods I won’t lose any sleep over it.
September 30th, 2010 at 11:56
this is the stupidest quote i’ve seen yet on this site !!!!
September 30th, 2010 at 12:48
AtheistMC,
Well yes, I won’t lose sleep either. I’m just saying that if you absolutely must believe in the boogeyman, it doesn’t make any sense to worship the Judeo-Christian boogeyman.
September 30th, 2010 at 14:29
Any deity that is so narcissistic as to require worship, doesn’t deserve any.
September 30th, 2010 at 14:33
Although if you are unfortunate enough to believe in the J/C boogeyman it would be prudent to worship him even though he doesn’t deserve it.
I know we know all the counter arguments to Pascal’s wager, but Yahweh obviously doesn’t.
September 30th, 2010 at 15:46
Teddy, I tend to agree with you… but maybe not for the same reasons. Could you explain yourself further?
September 30th, 2010 at 15:57
Bleh – this always appears to me to be the metaphysical equivalent of division by zero. Such a waste of time. Needless to say, if in my travels I ran across an angel with a burning sword making some what-until-then-seemed-stupid demand of me, a great many things would change in my life thereafter, including, possibly, what I thought was stupid.
YSG
September 30th, 2010 at 17:39
hi again WAT…………….(still the all-time best screen name ! )
i think it’s a silly quote because:
1) it makes no less than 4 silly assumptions (well, 5, actually ) and…..
2) it is self-contradictory
…………what did you get out of it ?? teddy
September 30th, 2010 at 17:52
also, i’m thinking the guy who came up with this dopey quote HAD
to realize how stupid and screwed up it is…..
SO HE DIDNT PUT HIS NAME ON IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 30th, 2010 at 18:41
I’ve heard this before and it seems nonsensical to me. If you had good evidence that there was an actual Hell and it was avoidable by simply adding ‘I believe in god’ to the good life you’re trying to lead anyway, then you’d be silly not to do it. Problem is, there’s no evidence at all. So you’re left with just living a good life and hoping that God, if she exists, isn’t the monster that people have made her out to be. Only a monster devises infinite punishment for finite ‘sins’.
September 30th, 2010 at 19:46
Theists always assume that the the god they believe in is the right one (even if they don’t actually know what their god really stands for) consequently the quote is nonsense. If they believe in a hell threatening sadist that demands worship. it is stupid not to worship it. This is the point about Pascal. His a-priori assumption was that the god you ought not to bet against was the Judeo Christian god, His wager falls down if you are aware that multiple or zero gods are hypothesised by many.
However to say that you believe in a particular god but would not at least attempt to obey it, is ridiculous.
October 1st, 2010 at 3:09
Ahh.. Gotta love the whole “I love you, now go to Hell heathen” bit. A king can chop off a man’s head after that man called the king a name, and be considered a wrathful king. Yet, God can send a man down to be tortured for all eternity just because that man spoke blasphemously, and God can still be considered as an all loving being worthy of praise and worship. Obviously God never got the whole “sticks and stones” talk from His parents.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:28
Captain,
You say that theres no evidence of HELL. What about the sun as a comparison?
October 2nd, 2010 at 0:33
Whakaka, we know who you are. Are you seriously suggesting that the SUN is the location of Hell? Is this your logic? Shall we investigate that path?
October 2nd, 2010 at 5:10
Edmond,
Did’nt I mention “comparison”. Is that too hard to be understood. If theres a place with huge hurling fires as of the sun, one should have no excuse to deny a place called HELL!