3rd January 2011

“If anything has 'proved' religion false, it's the multitude of religions. Many are mutually exclusive, therefore the majority must be false.”


18 Responses to “3rd January 2011”

  1. GreatEighthSin Says:

    I did a blog post last month on this. I used the ball hidden under the cup game as a metaphor for choosing a religion. Each religion screams they have the “truth”, then each denomination of that religion screams they have the “truth”, and then sometimes each individual church screams they have the “truth” and if you choose the wrong “truth” you will receive punishment.

    Sorry, I’m not going to stand around staring blankly at a room full of cups and hazard a guess at one and shout to everyone around me that it’s the right cup. I will wait for someone to finally reveal the correct cup by actually proving it’s the correct cup. To stand around playing the God game is just foolish, especially when you’re jumping up and down screaming that your cup is correct and it can change the world, yet you can’t lift it and prove it.

  2. no doubts tech Says:

    Great Eight a lot of words to say nothing?

  3. Dan Says:

    Well said, GreatEighthSin. I also like how Sagan put it in Contact:

    The major religions on the Earth contradict each other left and right. You can’t all be correct. And what if all of you are wrong? It’s a possibility, you know. You must care about the truth, right? Well, the way to winnow through all the differing contentions is to be skeptical. I’m not any more skeptical about your religious beliefs than I am about every new scientific idea I hear about. But in my line of work, they’re called hypotheses, not inspiration and not revelation.

  4. GreatEighthSin Says:

    One of my more favorite lines in that movie 😉

    @Tech Very few words to say nothing? Quit chugging from those red plastic cups and join in. Religion is to alcoholism as atheism is to AA. Religion has very little substance to give in life other than “praise this” and “worship that”, whereas looking into science and skepticism is about casting away your temporary weekly inebriation, and getting your hands dirty delving into facts. If you can’t understand that, then keep your alcoholic self-deterioration out of my societal clockworks.

  5. Dan Says:

    GreatEighthSin – or to put it in words that Tech can understand…

    “Only he who is without sin should cast the first stone…” IOW, Tech, before you criticize someone for “say[ing] nothing,” perhaps you should say something that actually contributes to thoughtful discussion on this forum.

  6. Rotten Says:

    GES, Your ball in cup metaphor would be even more meaningful if you allowed that there might not even be any ball under any cup.

    I often profer a similar position to the original poster but go further by suggesting that since all religions have mutually exclusive beliefs, at most one can be correct. Each believer uses similar arguments to support their belief. Probably, none of them are right.


  7. holysmokes Says:

    Just out of curiosity, what are the odds that 100s of millions of people in the middle East would all choose the same religion? What about countless millions in the in the West? How about billions in the the far East? It is obvious that people mostly choose the religion of the region, not because it is true, but because they are brainwashed into it. Never underestimate the power of propaganda and people’s propensity to follow the crowd.

    I challenge anyone to supply even one shread of credible evidence regarding a higher power.

  8. Ernie Says:

    Hmmmm……my favorite fundamentalist would say that they all really worship the same god but just have the details wrong and of course the implication would be that he had it right. Once, when I brought up the Greek gods for some reason he said that there may have been some truth there and went on to co-opt the Greek gods to use a a sign that his god was at work even then. Ughh!!!

  9. no doubts tech Says:

    Great English,To start with I don,t drink. “Wine is a mocker ,strong drink is raging and he is deceived by it is not wise”. Proverbs.

  10. no doubts tech Says:

    This site has made me stronger in my Faith, I feel more secure than I ever have in in my entire life. Everyday I thank my God for my Salvation.Words printed on this site have confirmed my beliefs over and over again.Praise The LORD.PRAISE THE LORD.I,m looking for forward to a wonderful New Year.

  11. Dan Says:

    Can we *finally* ban this troll??

  12. Admin Says:

    Dan: tech’s too nice to be a real troll.

    tech: stop trolling!

  13. Dan Says:

    Tech is nice? No he’s just passive aggressive.

  14. Ernie Says:

    I don’t drink either Tech but it does not bother me when others choose to do it responsibly in my presence.

    Tech is okay. Anyway, the seed of doubt has been planted in his brain. I can see it in his last post.

  15. tech Says:

    Ernie I don,t remember saying that you drank I could care less.I was just making it clear that I don,t.As for the seed you think you have planted,well there a seed planted long before this site started and you,re seed is no match for it.It was defeated at Calvary.I,m not a troll I,m a Christian been saved by the grace of God.

  16. Kaptain Says:

    @ Tech, How do you respond to the quote? After all, that’s what this forum is for. I for one would like to know why you chose your religion. You must of had some convincing information to make that decision. Let’s hear it.

    Personally, I’ve never heard a single fact from any religion that would cause me to consider the possibility any were valid. So, go ahead Tech, give me a reason to believe.

  17. Ernie Says:

    Hey Tech just joking around about the seed of doubt.

  18. Clovis Says:

    to the quote, it is hard to actually “prove” (as hypocracy will take over) that religion is false.

    Remember the meaning of faith ( to believe on something without proof). That alone tells you that ignorance will be a mandatory thing to religious’ people’s mind.