10th June 2011

“Abortion divides Americans along religious lines. A 2009 survey from the Pew Forum confirms other reports that nearly all humanists and other non-theists join most Jews, Buddhists, and Hindus in their support for a woman's right to abortion services, while Christians and Muslims are split on the issue. Leading the charge against abortion access are the evangelical Christians, Mormons, and Jehovah's Witnesses.”

Roy Speckhardt

6 Responses to “10th June 2011”

  1. The Heretic Says:

    I consider it a necessary evil, that is employed far too quickly and easily by too many. Many don’t understand the social revolution that it (abortion) allowed for all women; the ability not to be controlled by men thru breeding. That being said, while I understand the importance of this right, I dispise to frequency that it is employed. While a woman should be free to enjoy the life of her choosing, she should still be responsible for her own choices.

  2. Dan Says:

    @Heretic – well said.

  3. Jeff Says:

    The one thing that is obvious to me from both of your comments is that neither of you has a knowing relationship with a lady who has had an abortion. I have had two such. Neither was irresponsible in any way shape or form.

    The first aborted the fetus of an agent orange victim, because she did not feel capable of raising a severely handicapped child as a single mother, and the father refused to have anything to do with it. He had told her that he was sterile. Whose responsibility was that one? I know who lived with the aftermath, as I was married to her for 20 years.

    The second was a teacher when “single mother” and “teacher” were mutually exclusive due to morals clauses in her contract. In fact, if she bore the child and gave it up for adoption, she would still be terminated on that clause. Once again, the Saudi who fathered the child refused to have anything to do with her once informed of the pregnancy. Her choices? Try to raise a child without a job, give the child up and then try to live without her career, or abortion. I married her a bit more than 20 years later.

    Both marriages were knowing choices on my part. Both of them told me the stories through tears. Both of them have had my support and comfort in the down times that are a normal part of the aftermath, and I will not tolerate your judgement of these fine women.

    Was theirs a moral choice? Simply to ask the question puts you beyond the point where you can be judgmental about the answer. You can disagree with it, but that does not give you the right to judge them, PERIOD. Either we accept that moral choices are capable of going either way, or we are just as bad as the religious who would condemn them for not sharing their moral viewpoint.

  4. Dan Says:

    Jeff,
    So there are two women that you know that had arguably responsible abortions. Great. Does that mean more women should have abortions? No.

    “Necessary evil” IS a very apt description for abortion. Otherwise it would be a “good” thing, and more women should do it. That’s just stupid to say.

  5. Hypatia Says:

    Why all this talk of evil? Are you really hung up about cellular life? I can’t get that worked up about something without a brain.

    My take on this is that since only 1 in 3 women have an abortion during their lifetime, and women are fertile for over thirty years there’s only one abortion per hundred women years. This suggests that women behave very responsibly.

    Don’t swallow the lie that the abortion rate is “horrendous” or “out of control”.

  6. Dan Says:

    Wow, you guys are taking that word “evil” just a LITTLE too literally. I’m an atheist for crying out loud, so obviously I’m agreeing with The Heretic’s use of “evil” in a non-literal sense, meaning “not something we should aim for.”