28th July 2011

“The contemplation of this world beckoned as a liberation. The road to this paradise was not as comfortable and alluring as the road to the religious paradise; but it has shown itself reliable, and I have never regretted having chosen it.”

Albert Einstein1879 – 1955

16 Responses to “28th July 2011”

  1. CaptainZero Says:

    Einstein was a smart and subtle man. The myth IS alluring. Sometimes I miss the comforting delusion of seeing again loved ones long dead. I takes maturity to be at peace with the truth of our brief lives. The only immortality that means anything is in the memory of those who love you.

  2. Dan Says:

    Why was Einstein (or anyone) afraid of death though? I understand the fear of dying – it’s painful often, and not a pleasant process to watch anyway – but once you’re dead there’s no suffering, no pain. It’s over. How bad can that be?

    On the other hand, it makes perfect sense to be afraid of losing a loved one, or being afraid of what will happen to our loved ones once we’re dead. The living still have to carry on and maybe themselves suffer untimely fates or misfortunes. And that, to me, provides quite a lot of motivation to contrive elaborate fantasies that the dead aren’t dead.

    But that’s quite different from being afraid of one’s own death.

  3. Panzerbjørn Says:

    Dan, where do you get the idea from that Einstein, or anyone else for that matter, are afraid of death?

    Some people obviously are, but I suspect most Atheists/Rationalists aren’t.
    They might be afraid/annoyed about what happens to others when they’re gone, but surely not the part about being dead as it is simply a cessation of being.

    I think Mark Twain said it best:
    “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.”

  4. Dan Says:

    I know, he doesn’t say that, and I realize that I’m projecting my own opinion of the use of the word “paradise” into the quote. Maybe I should’ve written my comment a little differently. :-/

    Nice Twain quote. I’m also fond of Epicurus’ comment on the matter: “Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And when it does come, we no longer exist.”

  5. Wat Duino Says:

    What is the source for this quote? A book? Essay? Not doubtful, just curious.

  6. Panzerbjørn Says:

    Dan, no worries, I was really just curious. Nice comment from Epicurus too.

    Wat, it is from the book “Autobiographical Notes”, http://goo.gl/X1qUQ.

  7. R J Says:

    sol……..

    about your post from yesterday…logged in at 2:05.

    this post is a sad display of how distorted your mind really is.

    after reading this post , it occurs to me just how “limited” and

    “challenged ” you are.

    i suppose that most of the thinking and arguments that are the life of this

    site simply sail right past you. you latch onto the surface or

    tangential stuff……..but you’re too blurry and exciteable to get any

    deeper. that’s too bad………..because we’ve got some very

    good minds contributing here……………..and that brings me to this :

    you HAVE to be delusional to think you ( or anyone like you ) could

    have some AS YET UNVEILED strategy that might lead the folks on this

    site to THE TRUTH……………………..at least what YOU think is truth.

    not gonna happen.

    why dont you take the admins advice , and try explaining the whys and

    wherefores of your beliefs. tell people why you see YOUR truth as

    THE truth.

    one more thing…………..stop calling people LIARS………………..

  8. solomon Says:

    I’ll stop calling them liars once they stop lying.

  9. rj Says:

    I REST MY CASE

  10. nonDelusionalReality Says:

    If someone doesn’t value evidence, what can you say to them? What can you prove to them?

  11. nonDelusionalReality Says:

    How curious, the very people who cling on to ancient primitive primate superstitions, traditions, and beliefs are usually the same ones that say we didn’t evolve from primitive primates.

  12. nonDelusionalReality Says:

    Science and any rational person doesn’t rely on hearsay. Religious texts use what doesn’t even qualify as hearsay as proof.

  13. nonDelusionalReality Says:

    A Rational Person and/or Atheist doesn’t call what is beyond his Intelligence & Knowledge a “God”, he views it as a place to Explore and Learn; NOT Worship or Pray To.

  14. nonDelusionalReality Says:

    Love is not self-denial. Love is not blood and suffering. Love is not murdering your son to appease your own vanity.
    Love is not hatred or wrath, consigning billions of people to eternal torture because they have offended your fragile ego
    or disobeyed your rules. Love is not obedience, conformity or submission. It is a counterfeit love that is contingent
    upon authority, punishment or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by
    a healthy, unafraid human being.

  15. Atheist MC Says:

    People with secret manifestos have a disturbing propensity to be insane and commit acts of atrocity.
    Solly, If you have an agenda, table it, if you don’t… stop pretending and go bug some other people. You’re getting boring.

  16. meryt Says:

    “The contemplation of this world beckoned as a liberation.”

    I love this statement. To my eyes Eisnstein acknowledges the burden that the myths of faith place upon a mind especially a mind as great as his. And he pays homage to the beauty and the desirability of understanding the the universe as it really exists. It is impossible to reconcile the mutually exclusive tenents of many religions with reality. Many great minds were wasted in aplolgetics, a task as futile as the alchemists’ effort to transmute lead into gold.

    “The truth is cruel,but it can be loved, and it makes free those who have loved it.”
    G.Santayana