22nd August 2011

“If children understand that beliefs should be substantiated with evidence, as opposed to tradition, authority, revelation or faith, they will automatically work out for themselves that they are atheists.”

Richard Dawkins

17 Responses to “22nd August 2011”

  1. R J Says:

    very VERY big IF……………but not impossible

  2. solomon Says:

    The true “book” should gave them enough evidence.

  3. solomon Says:

    The creations, phenomenons, existing things could not have been designed, exist and controlled without a powerful deity. It just can’t . No amount of other explanation could ever account for its necessity. That is another evidence.

  4. Dan Says:

    The creations, phenomenons, existing things could not have been designed, exist and controlled without a powerful deity.

    Sure. IF they were designed. I hate to point it out though that you were born.

  5. archaeopteryx Says:

    solomon: what you typed is not a valid argument – it’s called the argument from incredulity.

  6. electrabotanical Says:

    I can affirm this quotation with my own experience. I was raised a secular presbyterian – the folks thought it would be a good idea to socialize us in the context of the christian faith. They didn’t want to send us out into the world ignorant of the the rich literary history of the bible. They also thought it might innoculate us against the appeal of cult-like groups. If religion isn’t mysterious, it isn’t an exciting revelation. Despite years of exposure to praise, bible stories and baptisms, I never bought it. I was never too convinced about Easter particularly. An communion seemed downright weird. Yes, I did the same with my kids, and they also thought the bible stories had little to do with reality and didn’t reveal much about higher truths.

  7. rj Says:

    electra…………….

    i identify strongly with your words…..my background was similar….

    and when i left home for school, that was the end of it. since then,

    i have read, studied and thought a great deal to arrive at my current

    viewpoints. i find participating in A.qotd very interesting, and somewhat

    tempering !!

    RE POST AT 7:40………….there is no ” one true book “

  8. holysmokes Says:

    A few words put to pen. It is amazing how something so simple can cause so many to swallow it hook, line and sinker. I feel sorry for you Solomon. It is obvious that you are unable to see past the foolishness. On that note, I’ll just ride up into the air on my horse. Do you believe I can do that? How about if I put it in a finely written novel?

  9. electrabotanical Says:

    The only “one true book” is House at Pooh Corner.

  10. R J Says:

    electra………….

    you are right, of course !!

  11. solomon Says:

    ‘I hate to point it out though that you were born.’

    Yeah….?
    What about the first human?
    Are they born too???

  12. solomon Says:

    All the atheists are !!LIARS!!

  13. solomon Says:

    holysmokes,

    If birds can fly, why can’t a horse, if fixed with a pair of wings.

  14. Dan Says:

    What about the first human?

    Yes. It’s a strange “law” of biology: all animals are born. I myself have seen quite a number of animals being born.

    But assembled by design? Don’t make me laugh.

  15. solomon Says:

    But the fact still points to the need that the 1st. human was designed & built. There’s no doubt about it.

  16. solomon Says:

    Dan,

    Sorry to say you need to re-master your biology.

  17. Dan Says:

    Really Sol? I’ve studied and worked as a biologist for 11 years (I’m 33). What is your education and work background in biology?

    Some questions that I’m sure you’ll answer with your years of experience then:

    1. And why exactly would you expect there to be a clear-cut “first human?”

    2. Given that human children are never identical to their parents, how do you know that Homo habilis and/or Homo erectus never gave birth to children that were more Homo sapien-like?

    3. You favor Dirt as an origin of the “first human,” right? As you’re so knowledgeable, then I’m sure you’ll be able to point me in the right direction of evidence of a dirt-to-human transition.

    4. Again, as you’re so knowledgeable on the subject, I’m sure you can explain how soil particles made the transition to not only forming complex molecules such as hemoglobin, but also cells, tissues and organs. Right?

    5. Related to question 4, I’m sure you’ll be able to explain why earlier hominids such as Homo habilis – which had all of these complex tissues already – could not have possibly transferred them through descending generations, despite the very striking anatomical similarities between H. habilis and modern humans. Right?

    Like you said, you’re more educated than I am, so these questions should be easy for someone as brilliant as you. 🙂