28th August 2011

“Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence; it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines.”

Bertrand Russell1872 – 1970

8 Responses to “28th August 2011”

  1. electrabotanical Says:

    There’s a big difference between understanding and rejecting science because you prefer fairlytales, and actually not knowing how evolution could create humans from earlier primates.

  2. R J Says:

    electra…………………

    i generally agree with the quote…..but i keep

    thinking about how families throw all that church/god/religion

    crap at young kids who just dont have the mental

    horsepower to deal with it…………….so mostly they wind up

    confused. and that kind of screwed up thinking can take

    years to straighten out. i mean that for a long time i was

    pretty sure the problem was with ME , and my

    inability to ” get ” what they were telling me. it didnt turn me

    into an axe killer , but it was disconcerting to (A) not

    understand the material and (B) to increasingly feel that the

    information was impossible….. i.e. could NOT be true no

    matter how you looked at it.

    so, i guess i’m agreeing with russell, but just wish this could happen

    as early as possibl in a life

  3. archaeopteryx Says:

    I agree with Russell’s diagnosis, but I think his outlook on the treatment is more optimistic than mine. The victory of reason is in no way assured as there are too many people who gain power and money from selling the snake oil that is religion. They will fight and fight to retain their stranglehold on society.

  4. scarlett Says:

    I suppose religion is like the appendix. An evolutionary throwback that is no longer any use but very dangerous when it goes wrong.

  5. Carbon14 Says:

    Scarlett, brilliant.

  6. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    The danger of religion will always be present as we are always in jeopardy from disease, devastation, war, asteroids, et cetera.

    Within one generation the Taliban took Afghanistan back 1000 years through destroying schools and hospitals and the infrastructure of civilized life.

    Think about how much intelligence could be potentially lost in a global catastrophe.

    It could happen once again, and it may have even happened before, that people feared the night, lightening, eclipses and so forth.

    It could happen again that masses of the ignorant subscribe to supernatural silliness.

    Hang on! It is still happening now.

  7. CaptainZero Says:

    I agree with Archaeopteryx. I don’t see it fading away so much as being vanquished where exposed to light but they are not going down without a fight and they are reasonably competent at turning out the lights.

    I sometimes think they understand the battlefield better than the rationalists. Witness their relentless attacks on education in general and science education in particular. They lose those battles in the courts but even their loses engender festering anger in religious communities and that energizes their base politically. Witness also their cherished goal of public funding for religious schools, places where you’d not expect children to be taught the state of scientific knowledge but some perverted doctrinaire position that treats theory as opinion and affords each equal stature.

    The U.S. has arguably become LESS rational in recent decades, not more, so before any of us congratulate ourselves over the inevitability of ‘Seldon’s Plan’, we ought to spare a look over our shoulders.

  8. R J Says:

    capt zero………………..

    i love your middle paragraph at 23:19 above. love it.

    what is “seldon’s plan ” ????????????