27th September 2011

“Those who need a god will have one.”

Anon.

22 Responses to “27th September 2011”

  1. R J Says:

    and vice versa

  2. archaeopteryx Says:

    “I have no need of that hypothesis”, said Laplace when asked why he did not mention god in his work. A brave man for his day.

  3. Bridgette Says:

    Short, sweet, and oh so true.

  4. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Brother you can say that again.

  5. electrabotanical Says:

    I don’t have much to say about this quote, but do you wanna see a creationist get his ass handed to him?

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/09/26/bob-enyart-and-will-duffy-partners-in-idiocy/

  6. R j Says:

    ELECTRA………………………….

    VERY interesting stuff. i signed up for the free thought blog

    so we’ll see what happens with that. i love finding all this

    new ( to me ) stuff. whenever you’ve got something

    to share , please do !! i pick uo SO MUCH good

    stuff on AQOTD !!! did you find the funeral story i

    left for you yesterday ??

  7. NatureofReality Says:

    Today’s quote reminds me of Solomon.

  8. electrabotanical Says:

    Yep, RJ – that’s was a good story about your Ghostly Uncle.

  9. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    It is funny if you substitute the word for master for god, or any other word that would complete the idea “weaklings need protection and will find it in the darndest places”.

    When you consider the vareity of “god defined” what you get is a mish-mash of silliness that validate the P.T. Barnum adage about “fools” and how often they are born.

  10. R j Says:

    naturofreality……………at 1739

    well yeah, it Does kinda sound like him ………….

    but if it WAS him it would be more like

    ” those whose needs a God, will because

    those needs have one god or they

    will burns in HELL !!!!!!!

  11. R j Says:

    SINJIN ……………..AT 1741

    HOME RUN !!!!!

  12. reetBob Says:

    It seems a little pessimistic.

    If both this and its opposite are true, the foreseeable future sees humanity entrenched in religion.

  13. R j Says:

    REETBOB………………….

    dont run off !!!!!!!!!!

    tell me why you think that !!!!

  14. reetBob Says:

    If those who need a god have one and those who don’t, don’t, and the majority if the world believes in a god, clearly many people need their god.

    Need is a strong word. How do you alter people’s needs? If you can’t then you can’t destroy their gods either.

    What do you think?

  15. R j Says:

    reetBob at 1808

    well, i dont know how you would change peoples’

    needs. but what i find MORE interesting in your

    post, is the idea of destroying their gods.

    i mean why would you want to ????? assuming

    that was even possible.

    it seems to me that, realistically, atheists will

    always be a minority…..and our general “tasK”

    is to, if questioned, present SOLID arguments

    for our viewpoints.

    we can, and do, attract like minds, and we study

    each others’ views and arguments and evidence.

    but as far as pressing our viewpoints upon the

    religionistas with the idea of gaining (or FORCING)

    converts………..that seems to me a little like

    jousting at windmills.

    also, since we do not believe in a god, then all there

    is to argue against is the IDEA of one, and the

    following “faith” in that idea. and, as history

    has plainly shown us, this isnt such a hot

    idea. the religious can be VERY hard headed,

    and very very TOUCHY !

  16. reetBob Says:

    You’re absolutely right. The religious are touchy and a vision of a future entrenched in religion is a pessimistic one (it seems to me).

    With regards to to the word ‘destroy’ replace it with ‘free them from’ and you’ll get the spirit (if not the letter) of my meaning.

    I don’t want to force anyone to believe anything, even you 😉 but I do want to encourage people down a path of conscientious logic, it’s better for everyone.

  17. Atheist MC Says:

    it seems to me that, realistically, atheists will
    always be a minority…..and our general “tasK”
    is to, if questioned, present SOLID arguments
    for our viewpoints.
    we can, and do, attract like minds, and we study
    each others’ views and arguments and evidence.

    If I was so pessimistic about the human condition I woukd give up. Gods will have their demise eventually.

  18. reetBob Says:

    Personally I’m not convinced by the quote – I’m not so pessimistic. Humanity has a long way to go to emerge from infantile tribalism and self-centered magical thinking.

  19. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    As the days pass R j, and even the years, our “general task” is a bucket being filled withthe undeniable. It is a weight that will overwhelm religion at a “tipping point”.

    MC after reading your post I thought of Sir Julian Huxley’s quote:

    “Operationally, God is beginning to resemble not a ruler but the last fading smile of a cosmic Cheshire cat.”
    ~ Sir Julian Huxley quotes

    reetBob Humanity has a long way for sure but these thing tip and great strides can be made up with a chancge in the direction of the wind. The advances of “The NEw Atheism” aren’t anything short of profound.

    If we keep asking the questions, if we all make the effort all the time, they will forget the Cheshire cat. That is when it will tip.

    Modernity and progressive thought will triumph becasue they are ahead of us, religion is behind.

  20. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    The End of Christianity by John W. Loftus
    http://amzn.com/1616144130

  21. R J Says:

    SINJIN AT 2055
    =================================

    beautifully put. really really well spoken.

    and a wonderful quote.

    i want to agree with you. i just dont know if things

    really WILL ever tip as you’re predicting. i hope

    they will. religion has done SO much damage.

    it would be so fine a thing for it to dissappear.

    selfishly, i wish i could live to see it come true……

    but that’s not gonna happen.

    i support the strength of your convictions.

  22. R J Says:

    sin……………………

    got the book on order from amazon.

    thanks much