11th October 2011

“A moment's clear thinking indicates that no religion can be true.”

Harry Kroto

15 Responses to “11th October 2011”

  1. R J Says:

    well DUHHH !!!!

  2. archaeopteryx Says:

    True, as far as I can tell. But looking around at what is going on in the world, what hope does this give for us as a species?

  3. electrabotanical Says:

    I think that’s why churches are so keen on regular attendance to supplemental brainwashing sessions.

  4. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    I think therefore I am, and for the same reason I know no god exists.

    That no god exists or could exist is obvious.

    Santa, Bigfoot, the Easter Bunny, Loch Ness, et cetera.

    I just got Richard Dawkins new book

    The Magic of Reality: How We Know What’s Really True by Richard Dawkins http://amzn.com/1439192812

    If I haven’t made, or Harry Kroto, or R j, Arch, and Electra haven’t made, completely clear then this book will or you simply can’t face the obvious.

    A must for every child this holiday season as it is an excellent introduction to science. Show you care about children and give this as a gift to every child you can.

  5. R j Says:

    sin………………………….

    i got the dawkins book too !!!! it’s great isnt it ??

  6. archaeopteryx Says:

    I got it too, and finished it today. Great fun, made even better by Deepak Chopra’s review cited on Pharyngula today!

  7. R j Says:

    ARCH……………………..at 812
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    well, arch, i think that’s a very pointed and relevant

    question.

    what hope , indeed ??

    my answer is “NOT MUCH .”

    if there were fighting weights for cynics and pessimists, i guess i’d fall

    under “heavyweight.”

    i am not a believer in the ” basic goodness of man”…..or

    any of that useless puke.

    i’ve said this before………………. i think humans are the worst

    and most dangerous creatures on the planet. they INSIST

    on maintaining and following insane SOCIAL and POLITCAL

    ideologies that are brimming over with failure….and

    RELIGIOUS divisions that only vie with each other in their

    distance from reality and sanity. and speaking of sanity,

    i happen to believe there is an almosr gossamer psychic

    membrane separating relative sanity and calm, from

    RAGING LUNACY IN every HUMAN BEING !!!!!………………..

    …………………………………………………………………………

    there are lunatic luminaries rising to prominence all

    over the globe……………africa, the middle east,

    parts of asia , south america, korea , the US

    …………………..it’s a good list….and growing.

    the international market for drugs never gets smaller,

    and currently caters to ALL ages. and the research

    and development of new substances for this market

    is some of the most sophisticated science on earth……

    isnt that charming ???

    wars are no longer the same composition and color

    that they were . they have become an horribly

    expensive, yet vital component in interlocking

    world economies. and the exhaust vapor from these

    violent economic engines is human life and liberties.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    i am completely convinced that there is a coming nuclear

    global disaster. there’s just too many assh–les running

    around with access ( or soon-to-be access) to the buttons.

    the nuclear arsenals are huge , and beyond belief in their

    destructive power. and you can bet your butt if ONE of

    these cowboys throws the first pitch,,,,,,they’re A:LL

    Gonna Play !!

    i personally find this idea sad……not for destroying

    billions of humans …………….BUT along with them will

    go the most heart-breakingly beautiful life forms .

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    so, Arch……i dont think there’s hope. humans are insane, their leaders are

    liars and murderers,. they CANT get along…and they WONT get along…..

    and ethical philosophers have produced VOLUMES of healthy

    speculation that NO ONE PAYS ATTENTION TO.

    i think mankind is doomed….and i dont really have any

    specifiic reaction other than to say to my fellow men,

    just as the detonation occurs…..” YOU EARNED IT.”

  8. archaeopteryx Says:

    Wow, R j. I didn’t expect such a vehement reaction, but I can see why you would be so concerned. I hope the picture is not as black as you paint it.

    Steven Pinker thinks we are getting less violent as a species (his new book, The better angels of our nature, is just out). Confession: I haven’t read it, just some of the reviews. Let’s hope he’s right.

  9. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Pinker’s book http://amzn.com/0393064476

    I agree Arch!

  10. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Stephen Greenblatt’s book I mean.

  11. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    This is Pinker’s book http://amzn.com/0670022950

  12. Defiantnonbeliever Says:

    How many of us actually have a moment of ‘clear thinking’, what is that, and to what degree can we be omniscient? I think we are all limited by the vast areas of our ignorance and false beliefs. I just try to keep learning to be less mistaken.

    Rj- While I’ve debated the worth and prospects of humans with myself on both sides I’ve yet to decide, you may be right. However, I think your statement on drugs is simplistic and shows ignorance and prejudice on the subject.

  13. R J Says:

    defiant……………..

    how so ??

  14. R J Says:

    defiant…………………….

    i was not clear about the fact that i was speaking about ILLEGAL

    drugs.

  15. Defiantnonbeliever Says:

    R J, The laws on what drugs are legal are about like what sexual and other declared taboo practices have been ‘legal’ under various religions, it’s a rather dogma based and capricious thing with little connection to science and rationality or freedom. You might look into:
    http://norml.org/
    http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives.shtml