3rd November 2011

“Many of us saw religion as harmless nonsense. Beliefs might lack all supporting evidence but, we thought, if people needed a crutch for consolation, where's the harm? September 11th changed all that.

Richard Dawkins”

Richard Dawkins

5 Responses to “3rd November 2011”

  1. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    It is time that the world stop seeing dependence upon gods and deities as some pathway to a cosmic never never land.

    Belief in the supernatural is deadly and on the most basic level incompatible with human existence.

    Never before in human history has the wholesale slaughter in the name of the divine been so simple and accessible to so many.

    Humanity is perched precariously on a tipping point: we can all wise up together and cast off the foolish waste that religion is or we can become the next victims of the charlatans that rule faith.

    It is a time for choosing: Peace or death.

    Tact, poise, and reason are our weapons. We must overcome.

    September 11th was just a new beginning. An awful could has settled over us and dark days lie ahead.

    We need to shape the future, maybe together, maybe through this forum. Any writers among us? Can we write a book? Maybe collaborate with each other. Can we get a film made?

    What can we do?

  2. captainzero Says:

    Well said, Sinjin. I would add that the same kind of thinking that is required to believe the impossible nonsense of religion also makes one susceptible to the mindset that objective reality is something we can vote on, that is, that the scientific method is irrelevant when it’s conclusions challenge our religious or economic or political beliefs.

    In our modern world, surrounded as we are with technological marvels that can greatly magnify our individual or collective actions, mental habits that divorce one from fact are not silly or quaint but in fact deeply troubling and potentially dangerous. Dawkins nailed it.

  3. Jeff Says:

    Unfortunately, Sinjin, the book that you are talking about is essentially a rationalist manifesto, which, on its face would never be read by the folks who need it most. Al Gore wrote such a tome – called the “The Assault on Reason”, although he would strenuously deny it as an atheist or even rationalist manifesto, because he doesn’t consider himself such.

    CZ, you are right about the thinking that says reality is up for a vote. Mississippi is trying it with their “Person-hood” amendment, and it fails on the face of it because anyone who thinks knows that human life began ONCE and only once, somewhere in sub-Saharan Africa about 50,000 years ago. Since then it has been passed on only living human sperm and egg coming together to initiate (but not begin) the cycle again and again, about 100 billion times. Unless they are willing to outlaw a number of things like masturbation, the removal of diseased ovaries, etc, defining human life as beginning at conception don’t make it so.

    Anyhow, Mr. Smythe – just exactly how do you think a cantankerous bunch of skeptics like hang out around here could possibly agree on something as complex as a book? I got a pretty good laugh just writing that last sentence, for God’s sake! Whoops – that was two in a row…

  4. R j Says:

    i vote for

    ”all i really need to know i learned in kindergarten.”

  5. R j Says:

    9-11 DID change everything………except for one sad fact :

    america is led by a bunch of candy-assed wimps…….

    and the rest of the world KNOWS IT !!!!!!

    JFK was the last guy who was willing to stand up

    and offer to kick some ass. since him, the U.S.

    has slowly dissolved into a whiny, snot-nosed,

    spoiled geek………….willing to bend over and

    let the rest of the world butt-f**k us into

    oblivion.