4th December 2011

“Martin Luther witnessed first hand the gross immorality, the unchecked vice, the corrupt practices and the unbridled abuse of power in his day amongst the Roman Catholic clergy. Like some today who remain in the Roman Catholic Church, he had noble thoughts of reforming it from within. He soon discovered however that Rome was irreformable.”


9 Responses to “4th December 2011”

  1. s0l0m0n Says:

    Just like the Atheists…..

  2. electrabotanical Says:

    I hate christmas season. I really do.

  3. s0l0m0n Says:


    A brief spell in (((HELL))) might be a good getaway.

  4. archaeopteryx Says:

    Is that a recommendation from personal experience, s0l0m0n?

    Despite his reforming activity, I’m not an admirer of Luther: this quotation illustrates his thinking.

    “Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but – more frequently than not – struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God”.

    He saw the incompatibility of faith and reason, but chose the wrong side.

  5. Dan Says:

    Nice quote, Archaeopteryx.

  6. jhm Says:

    The Romans had a chance with the Spirituali, but a new Pope put the kibosh on ’em. At least according to a very interesting documentary [ http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/episodes/michelangelo-revealed/226/ ].

    The thing about the Reformation that I don’t get is how access to the bible in people’s native language caused them to believe more in its fabulism, not less. At least the catholics had the excuse that they weren’t even allowed to own a bible, let alone hear the words in a language they could understand.

    In the final analysis, it seems that Catholics, despite all their extra biblical dogmas and doctrines (including the nonsensical stance on contraception, et al.), managed (or were compelled ) to accommodate some aspects of reality such as evolution. Protestants seem much more inclined to jaw dropping literalism.

  7. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Poor Martin Luther, bound to nonsense unable to just walk away. The beauty in atheism is the ability to just walk away from the patently false, the obvious nothing, the fantasy, the silliness.

  8. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Cap’n and Heretic I responded to yesterday http://atheistweb.org/qotd/1706/comment-page-1#comment-29061

  9. RJ Says:

    listen solomon…..and all your other stupid name


    why dont you go wave your great big religion

    inspired hard-on somewhere else ????

    electro tells us she hates christmas…….

    and YOU tell her what she needs is a trip to HELL !!!


    you’re a douche-bag.

    you cant get in the ring with the people on this

    site, because every time you attempt it, you get

    knocked on your ass……

    at least 5 people on the site have asked you

    to explain yourself……they have ALL been ignored.

    the ADMIN has questioned you and TOLD you

    you need some kinda back-up for your statements…

    and again, ignored.

    i’m sicka you to the point of dropping off the site……

    which i will sincerely regret…………because there are

    some nice minds posting here…..on issues that

    are coming into critical focus…………and THOSE

    minds CARE ABOUT AND CONTRIBUTE to the world

    around them.

    you dont.