4th December 2011
“Martin Luther witnessed first hand the gross immorality, the unchecked vice, the corrupt practices and the unbridled abuse of power in his day amongst the Roman Catholic clergy. Like some today who remain in the Roman Catholic Church, he had noble thoughts of reforming it from within. He soon discovered however that Rome was irreformable.”
Anon.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:35
Just like the Atheists…..
‘irreformable’.
December 4th, 2011 at 5:56
I hate christmas season. I really do.
December 4th, 2011 at 6:17
electrabotanical,
A brief spell in (((HELL))) might be a good getaway.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:34
Is that a recommendation from personal experience, s0l0m0n?
Despite his reforming activity, I’m not an admirer of Luther: this quotation illustrates his thinking.
“Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but – more frequently than not – struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God”.
He saw the incompatibility of faith and reason, but chose the wrong side.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:01
Nice quote, Archaeopteryx.
December 4th, 2011 at 13:12
The Romans had a chance with the Spirituali, but a new Pope put the kibosh on ’em. At least according to a very interesting documentary [ http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/episodes/michelangelo-revealed/226/ ].
The thing about the Reformation that I don’t get is how access to the bible in people’s native language caused them to believe more in its fabulism, not less. At least the catholics had the excuse that they weren’t even allowed to own a bible, let alone hear the words in a language they could understand.
In the final analysis, it seems that Catholics, despite all their extra biblical dogmas and doctrines (including the nonsensical stance on contraception, et al.), managed (or were compelled ) to accommodate some aspects of reality such as evolution. Protestants seem much more inclined to jaw dropping literalism.
December 4th, 2011 at 21:43
Poor Martin Luther, bound to nonsense unable to just walk away. The beauty in atheism is the ability to just walk away from the patently false, the obvious nothing, the fantasy, the silliness.
December 4th, 2011 at 22:06
Cap’n and Heretic I responded to yesterday http://atheistweb.org/qotd/1706/comment-page-1#comment-29061
December 4th, 2011 at 22:07
listen solomon…..and all your other stupid name
variations………..
why dont you go wave your great big religion
inspired hard-on somewhere else ????
electro tells us she hates christmas…….
and YOU tell her what she needs is a trip to HELL !!!
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you’re a douche-bag.
you cant get in the ring with the people on this
site, because every time you attempt it, you get
knocked on your ass……
at least 5 people on the site have asked you
to explain yourself……they have ALL been ignored.
the ADMIN has questioned you and TOLD you
you need some kinda back-up for your statements…
and again, ignored.
i’m sicka you to the point of dropping off the site……
which i will sincerely regret…………because there are
some nice minds posting here…..on issues that
are coming into critical focus…………and THOSE
minds CARE ABOUT AND CONTRIBUTE to the world
around them.
you dont.