21st February 2008

“The fact that, since the founding of the United States, Christianity has been much used, against the intentions of the founders, to justify governmental impositions and adventures is one cause for concern… The last thing needed today is a Christian nation embarked on a new crusade, at home or abroad.”

James P. Carroll

3 Responses to “21st February 2008”

  1. Terence Meaden Says:

    It is bad enough having a so-called Christian, yet science-dependent, nation with beliefs in absurdities like the claimed miracles, the non-events and the exaggerated events of the New Testament.
    What is worse is having one in which prominent people and numerous sects (JWs, Mormons, fundamentalist Xians, . . .) believe in the Bronze Age tribal stories of the Near and Far East where the infantile fables of Genesis got invented.

  2. Chris Says:

    In my opinion the 2nd sentence ought to end after the word nation. I think history has shown us convincingly that any dogmatically controlled nation is a force for evil in the world, whatever it happens to be doing. This quote brushes against what is for me the most deeply repugnant myth in U.S. history: that we are a Christian nation. Einstein said “It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions. A lie which is being systematically repeated…” So it was with A.E., so it is with the U.S. It is instructive, is it not, that the fundamentalist movement has adopted the “Big Lie” tactic they’ve used so effectively to push this point.

    WIKI – reliable in very many ways…

    “The Big Lie is a propaganda technique. It was defined by Adolf Hitler in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf as a lie so “colossal” that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously”.”

    So, the Christians who point to Adolph Hitler and try and make him an atheist (he was NOT) and then try and pin his crimes on our lack of belief, are more than happy to adopt his tactics. Hardly surprising considering that they are what he was: Facists.

  3. Critic Says:

    This is one of those quotes that could have various meanings if you parse the phrases in various ways. For my dollar, I like this snapshot

    …Christianity has been much used, against the intentions of the founders…

    because it reinforces my opinion, in accordance with Chris’ observations, that this is not, and was not intended to be, a xian nation.