31st December 2011

“Religious leaders only take a break from calling each other 'heretic!' to come together to denounce militant atheists, what with their 'reasoning' and 'books' (and other such military paraphernalia)”


6 Responses to “31st December 2011”

  1. Xhim Says:

    Strange quote. I hang with “religious leaders” and don’t recall ever hearing one denounce militant atheists, and only once heard one use the word “heretic” – and he was quoting somebody else. Just run with the wrong crowd, I guess.

  2. Dan Says:

    Strange indeed. This quote is a bit of an exaggeration of religious leaders, at best, I think.

  3. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    I thought I might share a funny first: AC Grayling: ‘How can you be a militant atheist? It’s like sleeping furiously’

    People write about anything I suppose, myself included. Often the nasty bits they don’t like they wrap up in hostile rhetoric like “militant atheist” or “atheist barbarian”. I do this too as a sort of personal protest where I go out of my way to demonize faith. It is a response really, to the avalanche of hatred directed to atheists by the faithful that has been savagely spewing since the dawn of faith that motivates me. Some samples:

    “atheist barbarians”

    “The Militant Atheist goes by many names: Atheist, New Atheist, Secular Humanist, Communist, Darwinist, Anarcho-Militerialist, Richard Dawkins, &c.”

    (a little fun)
    “ puzzling that the American media and public still perpetuate the cliché of so-called “militant atheism.” We hear the disparaging term “militant atheist” used frequently, the unquestioned assumption being that militant atheists are of course roaming the streets of America.”

    “I think what we see is militant atheism trying to use the courts to literally crush Christianity, silence anyone who believes in God, and to make those who do a target of punishment,” Staver suggests.

    “How Russians survived militant atheism to embrace God”

    “This is curious, because militant atheists normally love to pretend they’re smarter than everyone else…This stuff keeps happening because Christmas is a prominent target for malcontents. Aggressive attacks on Christmas traditions are a great way to grab headlines, which in turn spice up those fundraising letters for militant atheist organizations…”

    “Atheists and militant non-Christians get offended – offended, I tell you – threaten lawsuits and everyone acquiesces to their demands to be “unoffended.”

    I don’t personally hold any ill will for the faithful and I can’t imagine any atheist does, it isn’t the people that atheists find offensive.

    Beyond the flagrantly boorish behavior (trying to covert me), which is offensive because it is flagrantly boorish not because it is religious. For example: I have no ill will toward homosexuals but I find people making out in public offensive, they shouldn’t take it as an affront to their orientation that I object to that, I’d object to heterosexuals doing that too.

    Xhim I suppose we only hear what we want to hear, it is human nature as we all have a psychological defense mechanism. Some are just unable to “switch off” the mechanism.

    This quote comes to mind: Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.
    Albert Einstein

    “hang with “religious leaders” and don’t recall ever hearing one denounce militant atheists” Indeed! You are one of the good religious people that would never perpetuate negativity at atheists, Right! (eyes roll)


  4. Capt'Z Says:

    Oh I don’t know. To one religion, aren’t all other religions, in some sense, wrong? To a Catholic, all the other christian sects are, by definition, heretical. So there always has to be, to one degree or another, a looking askance at your competitors. But one thing all religionistas always agree on all the time is that however bad other religions are, atheism is worse because it calls into question the the basic premise at the heart of all their pyramid schemes: Faith.

  5. Xhim Says:

    Maybe there is some of that thinking, although there isn’t near the competition some might think there is. But I never hear people talking about either heretics or militant atheists. Hope that isn’t disappointing.

  6. Data Says:

    Well, while religion fears “reasoning and books”, I fear what the people of faith will do without them.

    “Now it’s come to this
    Wide-eyed armies of the faithful
    From the Middle East to the Middle West
    Pray, and pass the ammunition”

    A stanza of The Way the Wind Blows by Rush