4th May 2012

“On almost every page, the Koran instructs observant Muslims to despise non-believers. On almost every page, it prepares the ground for religious conflict. Anyone who can read passages like those quoted above and still not see a link between Muslim faith and Muslim violence should probably consult a neurologist.”

Sam Harris

8 Responses to “4th May 2012”

  1. Stephen Caldwell Says:

    Is there even a person that can be labeled a “moderate” Muslim? Or even a “liberal”?

  2. The Heretic Says:

    To admit such a thing would probably get them killed.

  3. Capt'Z Says:

    Well, the CEO of my company is a practicing Muslim. He prays discretely three times a day, does the hand washing thing, eats only halal meat. And he’s a decent human being.

    There’s an easy explanation and it pertains to ANY religion, not just Islam: The extent to which a religious person is a good person is inversely proportional to how closely they follow their holy book. Know a christian who is a great person? They ignore the terrible sections of the bible.

  4. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Cao’n I think you have it exactly right!

  5. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    For anyone thinking we have much to fear from terrorists read this:
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/04/23/the_enemy_within_0?print=yes&hidecomments=yes&page=full

  6. reetBob Says:

    Sinjin, your argument seems to be that
    The US fabricates threats that don’t exist.
    The US names radical Islam as a threat
    Therefore radical Islam is a threat that doesn’t exist

  7. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    reetBob it isn’t quite that black and white. Sure there is some threat from radical Islamists but the US political body exaggerates the threat greatly. Defense contractor like this.

    Millions are dying: Odd too because the US government does actually compile accurate statistics about what is really the greatest threat to Americans: The Center For Disease Control.

    If you would consider this: One thing, by a grotesque disproportion, kills more American per year than all the wars of our country’s entire history.

    It isn’t radical Islamists by a long shot: The terrorism/radical Islam has only effected a tiny little number of American in the last 200+ years. A few thousand.

    More Americans die each year for falling off ladders than are killed by terrorists. In fact most of the last 12 years reported no Americans killed by terrorists.

    Now if you think this is due to the war on terror I don’t think I’ll change your mind, but if you are willing to consider that the threat is way overstated then maybe we can start to consider what is really killing Americans and that is disease: Heart disease, cancer, and diabetes top the list.

    Qualifier: I’m ex-Navy, I served in the Persian Gulf, I have been in fairly extreme situations. My family has a military service tradition that dates to 1777. I’m pro-military I assure you. I’ve had my life on the line for our country. This isn’t a bleeding heart pansy Liberal promoting socialism.

    Medical science cured 82 diseases last century and the net effect was the near doubling of life expectancy, a radical improvement in quality of life for Americans, and an expansion of Amercan economic productivity that has made being an American the envy of the world’s population.

    Cure just one of the big 3 (Cancer, diabetes, or heart disease) and you will have a dramatic reduction in the cost of healthcare, an incredible boost to American productivity, and a real opportunity to recoup the economic prosperity enjoyed for so much of the last century.

    Continue to protect us from threats that simply are not as big as some would have people believe and we will be bankrupt, it will not matter that radical Islamists don’t like us, we be foraging for food.

    Bottom Line: We need to allocate our limited resources to where they will do the most good and we need to expand the definition of “Common Defense” to include all things that kill Americans.

    Today the overwhelming killer of more American than anything else by an enormous margin is disease.

    To deny this redefines who is, and what is, un-American.

  8. R J Says:

    sinjin………………………

    interesting points……and points with validity

    i want to second your thoughts; i also would like to add two more….

    1) the various addictions are taking their toll , too, in lives and

    economically.

    2) the world is full of dorks who hate the U.S. ………………..

    and who revel in the idea of dead americans . that’s a

    threat, and it doesnt matter if you call it big or small.

    and what’s also a threat is standing around and moaning

    and hand-wringing about these pukes while we try to

    ”NEGOTIATE ” with them.

    we keep on acting like wimps with these guys, and

    one day soon they’ll be happy to hand us our ass.