24th August 2012

“In the beginning there was Hydrogen.”

Hoimar von Ditfurth1921 – 1989

9 Responses to “24th August 2012”

  1. Kittie Aldakkour Says:

    or was it light…no, don’t need light – I am the light… yes thats it!

  2. Dan Says:

    This is an interesting quote to me, since I don’t really think that there was a “beginning” at all. The idea of a beginning – the universe just *snap* coming into existence all of a sudden – seems rather silly. I don’t know of course, it’s just that a creation, either by a god or not, seems to not fit with how we’ve ever seen reality operate.

    And who says that there has to be a beginning and an end, anyway, except to say that we only know up to a point?

  3. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    I think you are right Dan: Why would there be a beginning? Why would there be only a universe? Why not endless multiverses strewn across nearly impossible distances, all tiny parts of, what would seem to us, an infinititely larger object or organism?

    Is there a limit to how big it all can be? Or how small it all can be?

    Presently we think light is limited in speed and physicists have recently teased up with the possibility of something faster than light. It didn’t work out but can we say with certainty that nothing could ever be as fast or faster?

    What is the liklihood of this versus the liklihood of the big bang? Or even more unlikely a supernatural diety propping this existence up for his amusement?

    Something just tells me it really is bigger and smaller than we have ever really imagined.

  4. The Heretic Says:

    I always figured that the Universe (and beyond) was just a giant pile of possible ingredients. After billions of millenia one ingrediant bumped into another (under the correct conditions) and something new was formed. It was completely random happenstance. But as one new thing formed – billions of years later it bumped into something else which changed it again. Assuming time in infinite – it could have taken a very long time for the correct ingredients for anything to connect and upgrade, but once it did…..it snowballed. I don’t think there was a beginnning – just time – lots of it. Kind of like Edison said “I have not failed. I have just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.”

  5. Jeff Says:

    I used to think that Hawking radiation from the event horizon of a super-massive black hole was a good candidate for how this particular version of the universe came into being, then a new datum blew that one to shreds, when it turned out that the red shift was increasing, and the pulsating universe model went out the window. Of course that doesn’t even consider Hawking’s “Oops” which tossed out just about everything he’s done since his PhD thesis including the radiation upon which my speculation was based, and that one still has the cosmologists and physicists scratching their skulls from the inside out.

    Anyhow, I’ve seen some speculations that there is an inter-universal space which is expanding at extra (or even supra) C speeds. So far, no way to detect or verify has been found, although I might suggest that the increasing red shift might just be the sign of it in this particular bubble of the multi-verse. Sooner or later we’ll noodle it out.

    The bottom line is that if you aren’t losing hair over it, you haven’t thought it out. And with both my age and genetics, I haven’t got a whole lot left to lose!!!

  6. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Don’t worry Jeff, should you pass before we have all the answers I’ll call you on a “tachyonic antitelephone” and update your from the future into the past.

  7. R J Says:

    DAN AT 1039

    nicely written post……………i agree

  8. Kittie Aldakkour Says:

    Jeff – I understood “noodle it out”… could you draw me a picture for the rest of it?

    The closest I have come to looking at any thing science-like in a while is watching Neil De Grasse Tyson lecture at TED talks…

    I know,
    I can hear you laughing at me…

  9. Jeff Says:

    Kittie,

    Imagine a sphere inside which everything that ever was or ever can be exists. That sphere is expanding at a rate greater than the speed of light, creating truly empty space inside it. Now our universe come into existence by whatever mechanism inside the sphere, and begins to expand (a bubble inside a bubble), but doing so a some speed less than C. Other universes (possibly with completely different physical laws) can co-exist within the first sphere, and never interact with ours, so there is no conflicts. Now for the tough part – imagine it all happening in 11 (or 21, nobody is real sure, but the math works both ways) dimensions at once. Now you’re starting to get the idea of cosmology within a string based system. REALLY FUN STUFF!!!

    Hope that’s enough of a picture for you. If you got it, then you understand how the physicists and cosmologists are scratching the inside of their skulls.