18th September 2012

“If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.”

Florynce Kennedy1916 – 2000

15 Responses to “18th September 2012”

  1. Capt'Z Says:

    ‘Aint that the truth!

  2. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Truer words may have never been spoken before.

  3. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Envision a priest overseeing an abortion ceremony as a sign of divine grace and everyone standing around congratulating Joe on his abortion, right there on the altar.

    Then off to the house to share in cookies and cakes, maybe a nice brunch, all the children playing hide and seek. Joe a little queasy but not much worse for the wear.

    Matilda overheard saying how Joe’s abortion wasn’t as nice as her husband Bill’s. She’s a bit of a braggart you know how she is?

  4. Jeff Says:

    Of course the Jews are much more dignified about it, the Rabbi comes over to the house and does it to Abraham with just the family and a few friends in attendance, and a single round of Mannichevtz to L’Chiem.

    The Moslems have their own ceremony, but it’s completely private, and they never invite infidels.

  5. Jeff Says:

    RE: The Heretic on the 15th. Please see my comment at the bottom of that date.

  6. Kittie Aldakkour Says:

    I worked at a Jewish Country Club (Westwood C.C.) in Houston and we had many a Bris – big affairs – not my idea of private – although it was a Private Country Club… that is the only part of it I would consider private – well, that at the little fellow’s “private” bits that were the reason for the gathering…

  7. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Jeff I responded to the 15th’s comments yesterday and if I can go so far, it would appear we are like minded, at least on the matter you speak to Heretic about.

    Mr. Ryan isn’t the sort of person that should be in charge of anything more complicated than a Porta Potty.

  8. Kittie Aldakkour Says:

    Jeff – what I find even harder to swallow is when Ryan and Santorum claim that if that woman in the E.R. was their own daughter they would council her to not terminate or take a morning after pill… for that matter. I think about my own loving father and how would that make me feel about him, knowing he would extort this price from my life – to justify his zero tolerance and further his political ambitions.. Of course my father wouldn’t have done this even though he believed in the sanctity of life. I look at my husband – would he ever conceive of doing such a thing to our daughter. My husband has “skills” on a realistic level like the dad in the movie “Taken” – so I know that the rapist would discreetly disappear. I also know he could never support such a wretched idea as is put forth by the “good Christians”.. For every man who stands with women on choice there seems to be two who would take it away. I don’t understand the mindset of these people – I must not be able to lower my critical thinking or my morals enough to find understanding… I don’t want to either. They still have their choice. Go ahead and force your daughter to bare her rapists child, Mr. Ryan. Keep your morals off my daughter.

  9. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    It is hard not to think of Michael Dukakis’s stance on the death penalty given what you have said here Kittie.

    It is likely a flaw of my character, like perhaps your husband (I won’t judge), that I would also make the problem go away.

    I would never urge my daughters to do anything other than what they wanted to. Given my stance on abortion I imagine that would be abortion.

  10. Kittie Aldakkour Says:

    I don’t remember Dukakis’ death penalty stance, if I ever knew it. I don’t think of it a character flaw, I think it is human nature. I am currently reading a book about sociopaths… The inability to process certain feelings – the lack of conscience – I am not sure what I think about that yet. We are talking about something else with our scenario, the ability to compartmentalize would be necessary to continue on with life and not be eaten up by the dissonance you would feel about the actions taken. According to the military psychologists, my husband has that. I don’t want my daughter to have children until she has chased her dreams. She should be able to earn a living for herself. Choices. We want our kids to have choices – and I don’t mean between a rock and a hard place either…

  11. Dan Says:

    I just remember the topic of abortion somehow coming up in school for me as early as 8th grade – I took the position that, “I don’t have a vagina, so why is anyone asking for my opinion on abortion?!” Not much has changed; I still hold that view.

  12. reetBob Says:

    I’m very much for choice, but to some extent I can appreciate the very real and visceral revulsion that late-term abortions invoke in some people.

  13. Jeff Says:

    Sinjin,

    I understand your moral objections to Mr. Dukakis’ stand on the death penalty. From earlier comments, I assume that you accept it as a categorical imperative per Mr. Kant. I must respectfully disagree based upon our constitutional theory as clearly stated in the Preamble thereto. Under the basic theory of our constitution, i.e.; Popular Sovereignty, I would find that not using the death penalty is the categorical imperative, as to do so invalidates the theory. Kant’s thinking was based upon the Individual Sovereign, whose authority, if withdrawn, is then vested in another individual. The problem with that withdrawal in the case of PS is that it is already vested in all the other individuals of the society, and in the case of capital punishment, it cannot be restored if it is withdrawn in error. I can accept the partial withdrawal of sovereignty required for the punishment of crime (imprisonment), but if a PS society can completely withdraw the sovereignty of the individual without the possibility of its restoration to that individual, than the concept of PS becomes moot.

    My personal moral objections aside, it is on that basis alone that I am unalterably opposed to the death penalty.

  14. Jeff Says:

    On the other hand, there have been times, mostly in my son’s teens, when I wondered if I could convince a jury that I had merely performed an extremely late term abortion.

  15. Kittie Aldakkour Says:

    Funny Jeff.

    I think the late term abortion is horrible. There are some genetic tests that are not done until around week 18 – Trisomy maybe and if that came back positive… then that is something to be discussed between the doc and the mom… Ideally these things will be taken care of in the first trimester..