25th September 2012

“Religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt, and I claim that right.”

Christopher Hitchens1949 – 2011

7 Responses to “25th September 2012”

  1. R J Says:

    ridicule and hatred i could accept……but only if expressed

    PRIVATELY.

    Contempt i can support completely.

    i think there is enough ridicule and hatred in the world

    already .

  2. Kittie Says:

    RJ
    I think humor is a good way to treat it. Ricky Gervais makes me laugh – I could listen to him read the bible – from cover to cover and never get tired – I wish he would.. what a great way to get christians to finally read the book they think they live their lives for… Have any of you seen him do the bit where he reads from the book of genesis… what a gift.

    Christopher Hitchens – I did fantasize about catching him in a bar on one of his philisophical tirades… drinking with Hitch – that would have been fun.. Of course I would have flirted some too… but only with words.

  3. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    I could not agree with Hitchens more.

  4. Jeff Says:

    I agree with Hitch that he had the right to treat religion with any of the above, but would reserve the hate and contempt for the practice, not the believer. Just as they can supposedly hate the sin and love the sinner. We need to be at least as good as they are in order to be heard.

  5. Coolbeans Says:

    I agree and understand where Hitchens was coming from, or at least would like to think so. I won’t presume to think I know how religion had affected Hitchens’ life, or how he came to his positions, but I imagine it was due to something along the lines of the following (directly or indirectly, of course). THIS IS FICTION. But I imagine something like this could or has happened.

    A girl in college killed herself because of religious ignorance and bigotry. Long story short, her partner got her pregnant, and 3 days after finding out, left her high and dry. He was the provider and when he left her she was forced to drop out of school and move out of her home due to financial reasons. Her parents wouldn’t give her the slightest interest due to their religious beliefs. Premarital sex (even between lovers who have been together for 7 years) was not okay with them. As she was trying to piece her life together, she decided the best option would be to abort the child. She didn’t have the foundation or the resources to properly raise a child, and she didn’t think she would be able to handle adoption. So she made a choice. A Christian newspaper decided to write a slanderous story about her (with lies included) and pass the paper all over the community and university. People vandalized her tiny apartment door and she couldn’t get a job to save her life. So she killed herself. And she left a short letter letting everyone know why.

    As I said, this didn’t really happen. At least, I don’t personally know of any instances of this happening. I do know that some women do commit suicide after having abortions. But I won’t throw any fake evidence or statistics into the mix, claiming that all or almost all of them did so because of evangelical protest. But I would say an individual would read something like that, Christian or not, and believe that community to be horrid. And put into a pack mentality, I bet most Christians would side right along with the rest of the community. Evil can be redefined as good if you have enough people on your side.

  6. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Jeff you are right, practice not the believer. My disdain is for the practice and the institution, many of the believers are friends.

  7. Kittie Says:

    Coolbeans,
    I believe Hitchens tells a story where he was in elementary school and the teacher tried to tell them that the sky was blue and the grass was green because god made them that color to be pleasing to our eyes… and he knew then that it was all rubbish.

    As for Hitchen’s stance on abortion – I believe he was of the mind that it was murder. Which did surprise me about him… Not sure he would force someone to have a baby – but I do think he thought of it as murder.

    Now about that story…..