“Islam does not oppress women so they don't need freedom!”
Olatunde Oloyede
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Muslim men who die as martyrs (fighting in battle or other deaths) are promised 72 (or sometimes 73) beautiful, black-eyed perpetual virgins as wives in heaven. – And they have their regular wives on earth still tagging along too. This short page is simply a brief description of what the hadiths say about these heavenly virgins, called “houris”.
hou·ri (hr, hr)
n. pl. hou·ris
1. A voluptuous, alluring woman.
2. One of the beautiful virgins of the Koranic paradise.
“Quran does not say anything about 72 virgins…six (recognized) books of Hadith…Tirmidhi is the main source for the belief that martyrs may get up to 72 Houris. It was only in the sixth century A.H. that Tirmidhi’s ”Jami’” was accepted as one of the canonical books on Hadith.”
“For God so loved the world, that he temporarily lent his only begotten son, which he made specifically for this purpose (and could easily made more of), so that all who are willing to believe this on the thinnest of evidence, will not be subject to the same eternal torture that God has in store for everyone else.
The degree to which Islam oppresses men – if it can even be accurately described as oppression, at least within context of the quote – comes nowhere near that to which women experience.
Men control Islam and women; to say Islam oppresses men too, is like saying the master is also enslaved. It may have some slight poetic truth, but in reality it is nothing more than ugly misogynist apologetics.
Will sweetheart just because the ignorant men of Islam are possibly not aware of their own oppression does not mean it does not exist. I was merely broadening the evils of Islam… pointing out that it is not good for anyone. Think of all the things you enjoy as a free man in this country (if you are) Just having this conversation with me for instance or a smile or casual compliment from a female. The small courtesies in our lives that interaction brings. I like men – I like seeing them and interacting with them I am appreciative of gentlemanly gestures… these small things are denied to the fundamentalist Islamic male. Misogynistic apologetics – me? You should know that it takes nothing away from the evils done to women to point out the evils done to men.
November 5th, 2012 at 11:37
Ummm, quite O.o
November 5th, 2012 at 12:17
Anyone hoping for 72 virgins in the afterlife is a closeted pedophile.
November 5th, 2012 at 14:22
Virgin females were not specified.
November 5th, 2012 at 15:34
ridiculous .
November 5th, 2012 at 17:02
Virgin females were well specified in Islam.
Muslim men who die as martyrs (fighting in battle or other deaths) are promised 72 (or sometimes 73) beautiful, black-eyed perpetual virgins as wives in heaven. – And they have their regular wives on earth still tagging along too. This short page is simply a brief description of what the hadiths say about these heavenly virgins, called “houris”.
http://www.muslimhope.com/HourisHeavenlyMaidensInIslam.htm
hou·ri (hr, hr)
n. pl. hou·ris
1. A voluptuous, alluring woman.
2. One of the beautiful virgins of the Koranic paradise.
“Quran does not say anything about 72 virgins…six (recognized) books of Hadith…Tirmidhi is the main source for the belief that martyrs may get up to 72 Houris. It was only in the sixth century A.H. that Tirmidhi’s ”Jami’” was accepted as one of the canonical books on Hadith.”
http://controversialislam.wordpress.com/72-virginshouris/
November 5th, 2012 at 18:47
“For God so loved the world, that he temporarily lent his only begotten son, which he made specifically for this purpose (and could easily made more of), so that all who are willing to believe this on the thinnest of evidence, will not be subject to the same eternal torture that God has in store for everyone else.
November 6th, 2012 at 2:09
I was in error. Alluring by whose standards I wonder. Hairy too I bet.
November 6th, 2012 at 6:09
Islam – means submission so it supresses everyone – men too.
November 6th, 2012 at 6:10
it oppresses them too.
November 6th, 2012 at 17:13
The degree to which Islam oppresses men – if it can even be accurately described as oppression, at least within context of the quote – comes nowhere near that to which women experience.
Men control Islam and women; to say Islam oppresses men too, is like saying the master is also enslaved. It may have some slight poetic truth, but in reality it is nothing more than ugly misogynist apologetics.
November 7th, 2012 at 7:28
Whoah! In what way is Kittie’s comment mysogynistic? She said nothing about women.
November 7th, 2012 at 15:44
Will sweetheart just because the ignorant men of Islam are possibly not aware of their own oppression does not mean it does not exist. I was merely broadening the evils of Islam… pointing out that it is not good for anyone. Think of all the things you enjoy as a free man in this country (if you are) Just having this conversation with me for instance or a smile or casual compliment from a female. The small courtesies in our lives that interaction brings. I like men – I like seeing them and interacting with them I am appreciative of gentlemanly gestures… these small things are denied to the fundamentalist Islamic male. Misogynistic apologetics – me? You should know that it takes nothing away from the evils done to women to point out the evils done to men.