12th March 2013

“Sure, science arose out of Catholicism… in the same sense that plumbing, sanitation systems, and public health policies arose out of sewage.”

P. Z. Myers

7 Responses to “12th March 2013”

  1. RJ Says:

    what a nice quote.

  2. Bruce Williams Says:

    Science arose DESPITE Catholicism not out of it. The church fought it tooth and nail because science challenged the church’s authority as the font of all knowledge.

  3. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    The Babylonians, with their complex mathematics and astronomical observations, and the Egyptians are considered the first scientists.

    The earliest Greek thinkers and their first “scientific” theories about the natural world and how these were distinct from earlier ways of envisioning and conceptualizing the world might also lay claim to some pre-Catholic science too.

    About the only sympathy I have for today’s quote is in the “same sense” relationship between sewage and Catholicism. Of course that denigrates sewage which when refined into the product Milorganite has the quality of adding vital nutrients to plant systems and helps them grow. Catholicism is aboiut raping children. I don’t see any good in that.

  4. Kit Says:


    Just when I read a quote I can really agree with.. you come along. I have to say you do take apart an argument in a fine way!

  5. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Thank you Kit! I like writing here because I’m filled with plenty of doubts abd I get a lot of support here. The following quote comforts me:

    “The problem with the world is fools and fanatics are so sure of themselves and wiser people are full of doubts.” ~ Bertrand Russell

    If Mr. Russell was full of doubt I feel a lot better about being so full of doubt.

    AQOTD and its many regulars have provided me with votes of confidence for a few years now. It is good to have your compliment too.

  6. Jeff Says:

    Actually, given the 2000 year head start that the Babylonians, Egyptians, and Greeks had in this area, I wonder just what happened to them. Oh yeah, it was the Romans…

  7. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Well Jeff the Romans did pretty good with their engineering and architecture up until the era of Late Antiquity/Early Middle ages. Blame it on dear Constantine and the Christians?

    The population declined, technological knowledge and standards of living fell apart like a three dollar watch, and the stage was set for the fall of the Empire.

    Religion brought the Dark Ages. The wholesale retardation of humanity.

    I sometimes wonder, with all of these idiot religious sociopaths running loose in the streets today, if we aren’t a moment away from a new Dark Ages?

    It is what scares me most about some Social Conservatives.