1st May 2013

“The wealthy Catholic Church in the homeland of Pope Benedict XVI sees the number of its followers dwindling, leading to lower proceeds every year, and ever fewer young men choosing to become priests.”

Juergen Baetz

5 Responses to “1st May 2013”

  1. R J Says:

    JEFF AT 1824 yesterday

    jeff, if you wouldnt mind…could you elaborate a little on

    your post from yesterday. it’s interesting, but i just want

    to hear a bit more.

    thanks…..r j


    this CANT be a surprise. bunch of old bullshitters finally

    get nailed .

  2. Jeff Says:

    The UK has had a long history of secular society leading the Church of England and the RCC (the two primary denominations in that neck of the woods thanks mostly to QE the first and her dad, Hank) being unfailingly conservative for most of the 19th and 20th centuries. So the Independent’s observation was quite accurate for the UK’s progress towards social equality – led by the secular and trailed by the religious “leadership” reluctantly, and when the outcome was already obvious.

    Here in the US it went somewhat differently, particularly on race. In part, this was because the only real organizations within the black community after emancipation were the churches, due primarily, I believe, to the lack of state sponsorship of religion. Melissa Harris-Perry’s article “Righteous Politics: The Role of the Black Church in Contemporary Politics” (Cross Currents . Volume 57, Number 2. 2007), available on line via her personal web site, contains some good background information on this role of African-American churches. It is best to remember that well over 50% of the NAACP leadership are still pastors. And it is the cross connections with the white religious community in the North and West where we see the leadership role that lead to the civil rights era evolution of public opinion.

    So too, with the “evolution” of public opinion on LGBT issues. Notice the American Anglican election of an openly Gay bishop so long ago that he is now retiring? That has lead to an open split among world-wide Anglican (read Church of England) congregations many of whom cling to the churches more traditional conservative stances. Notice too, the more recent endorsement of marriage equality by the aforementioned NAACP, lead by Ben Jealous about 18 to 24 months ago, despite the preaching of many of the religious within the organization. The executive committee (about 75% pastors) voted for it as a CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE, regardless of their religious opposition.

    Just a few thoughts in this area.

  3. Jeff Says:

    Please note: Paragraph 3, Sentences 2 and 3 for “lead”, please read “led”. Don’t know what my brain was thinking when I typed that…

  4. Jeff Says:

    Please note my personal nomination for best written court opinion of 2013 to date:


  5. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Funny stuff Jeff!