30th May 2013

“Respect cannot be demanded, or imposed by a free state. It can only be freely given. The demand of Muslims for uncritical and legally binding respect for their beliefs is simply not one that can be met in a society like ours. And the failure, by some Muslims at least, to perceive these distinctions is, without exaggeration, tragic.”

Minette Marrin

5 Responses to “30th May 2013”

  1. Jeff Says:

    The problem is not the demand of the Muslims, it is the granting of uncritical and legally binding respect for the beliefs of OTHER religions. Let’s see: Taking their property off the tax roles, addressing their clergy by title, putting their clergy in uniform, and putting them up in front of our legislators when in session. By the way, all of the above are available to the Muslims, too.

    NO, WE DON’T TRUST IN GOD, thank you very much.

  2. The Heretic Says:

    I hate to burst your rant, but other religions don’t behead people and blow them up when they have been criticized. You may not like all religions. Fine. But don’t equate the relatively unviolent ones with the completely savage ones. They are not the same.

    Religious influence is waning everywhere in the world except the Muslim countries. Oh, and by the way, Muslims hate atheists more than they hate Christians and Jews.

    Western society gets its jollies these days by tearing down Christians and Jews, yet they are terrified to do the same to Muslims, who deserve more than everyone else combined. It is kind of like kicking a wounded old dog and ignoring the Pit Bull with blood dripping from its jaws. (No offense to Pit Bulls – I like you better than most humans.)

  3. Jeff Says:

    Hate to point this out, but while the Muslims happen to be today’s worst offenders, you’re not going to get rid of the problem except by busting the general principle. “Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion” NOT “establishment of a religion” which is how SCOTUS has been reading it up until now.

  4. The Heretic Says:

    I have yet to see Congress establishing a religion. Have you? To my knowledge they haven’t made up their own.

    However, many of them participate in one religion or another. Incredibly, the founders that wrote the words that you quibble over, prayed over the concept. In fact they referenced God in many of our founding documents.

    Just because you don’t like religion, doesn’t mean you have the right to tamp down everyone else’s display of their religion. Seems a little unAmerican to me.

    I think you have gone overboard in your hatred of the theological philosophies that founded this country. I am not a theist, but I don’t hate everything that is theist. Nor do I think it hurts me in any way for theists to enjoy their holidays publicly.

  5. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    For the record there is no use of the word god in the United States Constitution and only 1 use of the word god in the Declaration of Independence as “nature’s god”.


    Attempting to say rejecting religion is un-American isn’t as un-American as saying one is better than another.

    “All religion is bad” is a reasonable position.

    Trying to say that roughly 10,000 fundamentalist Muslims (out of a biilion Muslims worldwide) make Islam worse than Christianity or Judaism, based soley on Western media sensationalism, demonstrates a distinct absence of reality.

    It is far more accurate to say Islam is not better than any other religion as they are all junk.

    Christians and Jews are quick to use the “one bad apple” line to dismiss their villians.

    I wonder if the victims of Anders Behring Breivik, the KKK, Yaakov Teitel, Eden Natan-Zada, Baruch Goldstein, Yigal Amir and a whole laundry list of rotten Christian and Jewish terrorists think most Christians and Jews are OK?