10th July 2013

“Preachers and pastors lament the loss of faith of 30-something and younger Americans. They debate how to best reach out to an entire generation that, for the first time in our country's history, is becoming non-religious. What they don't understand is that we're not just leaving because church services aren't hip enough or because their sermons against homosexuality are just a little too harsh; we're leaving because we've discovered that when it comes to biology, geography and history, our conservative pastors and holy texts are dead wrong.”

Ted Cox

5 Responses to “10th July 2013”

  1. Capt'Z Says:

    Which is why, in a lot of places, the strategy of the religicons is to mess up education. They’ve cottoned on to the fact that education is the bane of religious woo. Thankfully, their attempts are constantly being thwarted by the courts.

  2. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    In principle I like the idea of school vouchers. The idea that parents could pay for the education they want for their children appeals to me. I’d like my children to have alot of science, math, arts, and athletics. I’d like the rigor to exceed what is typical in many public schools.

    But then the ugly side of the idea comes into the picture. Vouchers lead to education at schools with Christ in their names. The last thing I’d ever want is for my child to attend a school with the name Christ in its name.

    Why? Well the kids dramatically underperform kids from public schools that’s why.

    This is the point of Christian schools, keep the kids dumb. Dumb kids are more likely to believe in god!

    Jeff this post highlights my political dichotomy where on one hand I like the Republican idea of vouchers but then also reject it because it is religious BS.

  3. Capt'Z Says:

    Sinj – You are right, with a caveat. In CA, where I live, Catholic schools have a well deserved reputation for turning out well educated people. They still teach catechism (whatever that is!) but the Catholic church seems to have largely made its peace with science and history or at least keeps a wall between that instruction and the religious tosh. Non-Catholic people are willing to pay their own money because of the good reputation. The church knows it has to protect that reputation by providing a good product.

    I thoroughly agree with you, however, that a voucher program that includes religious schools amounts to state sponsorship of religion and is therefore verboten. You could try and craft rules to attempt to prevent vouchers from being used at, say, Our Lady of the Immaculate Liars Christian School, but other than the name, how can one tell that Sam Houston Sons of Liberty Charter School isn’t a front for a Southern Baptist religicon indoctrination and history fucking center? Getting their filthy paws on all that public school money is all these religious pyramid schemers wettest of dreams.

    I’m with you that it would be great to use market forces to force schools to improve but I’m very skeptical that you could keep the foxes out of the hen house once you open the door. They seem to think this too, since they have been the loudest voices in favor of vouchers. Maybe a robust audit system could work but I think you’d end up with religious auditors turning a blind eye to the inevitable encroachments.

  4. Capt'Z Says:

    I’ll also add that financial disclosure rules vary greatly from place to place and one expected result of vouchers would be a whole lot of suddenly wealthy people, religious or not, in the education business. My daughter attended a charter school that was started by parents, myself included. Things were going great and then their was a palace coup by a member of the board who subsequently made some very clever rule changes, made himself the director of the school and got his crony’s on the board to raise the director salary to from 150 to 170k, all without stakeholder knowledge or approval.

  5. Jeff Says:

    Sinjin,

    I understand your dilemma, but don’t understand why you didn’t raise your hand within the party when RMN, Rodger Ailes and St. Ronnie of Reagan were turning the party over to these folks. Sure, it was great because you were winning elections, but the today’s outcome was COMPLETELY predictable when they did it. If you saw that they were making a pact with the Devil, then you should have screamed it from the rooftops, but most of the folks like you enjoyed winning too much, and figured, like the three mentioned above, that you would never really have to do anything about it. Well, where’s Mr. Webster when you really need him?