8th July 2008

“We can lament the rising divorce rate, but it's a reality. On Sunday mornings, the people in the pews, in Europe or America, are very often divorced or gay or are using birth control.”

Rev. Keith Pecklers

7 Responses to “8th July 2008”

  1. Chris Says:

    I feel like I’ve been hit with a Tazer – a “rev” using the word “reality” in a true statement. Did the earth stop in its orbit?!?

  2. Chris Says:

    Did you know that:
    1. At 21%, atheists have the lowest divorce rate in the U.S.?
    2. .2% of the prison population is atheist?
    3. More rationalist than most places, CA has the lowest rates of abortion and teen pregnancy, a DIRECT result of comprehensive sex-ed? Almost as low as many European countries.
    4. The fastest growing categories on faith surveys are Atheist and Agnostic?
    5. The percentage of Homosexuals in the general population has been rock solid stable for years. May be a genetic (intelligently designed) explanation. Twin studies confirm this.
    6. Solid studies confirm sex ed boosts condom use and decreases STDs.
    7. Girls from religiously conservative households are less likely to use birth control but are AS LIKELY to engage in pre-marital sex. Wonder where all those abortions come from…

    So, their knee jerk reactions to these issues gives kids STDs, causes abortion, ignores the FACT that homosexuality is not something people can choose not to be (Ted Haggard) and does nothing to make families more stable. And while were at it, denies basic, demonstrable facts about the world we live in. Just what about this invisible man worship thing is supposed to be effective? Surely not just the fund raising part!

    Must just GALL the religiofacists to be outdone this way by the damned.

  3. Terence Meaden Says:

    So this clergyman is lamenting that god worshippers in Europe and America are very often divorced, gay or use birth control.
    Non-believers certainly lament that there any god worshippers at all, and that the clergy are too often patriarchal, misogynist and pederast.

  4. Bornagain A. Theist Says:

    As a professor of liturgy at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome, surely Keith is well aware intellectually of the things of which he speaks; note though, how his presentation would have his audience think that he stands as amazed as he expects them to be over these routine matters. Perhaps one day he will utter something like, “It appears that there is some evidence that the churches policy against birth control may require further investigation.” and hope that those listeners will stand equally amazed.

    Flexibility in the catholic church over the years has not been great, but at least they can eat meat on Fridays now while millions of aids infected folks merrily continue fucking without protection – because they said so…

  5. eric f Says:

    Keith makes it sound like these are the only problems the people in the pews face.

    How many of us have broken traffic laws?
    How many of us have stolen something in our past?
    How many of us have lied to the ones we love?

    We still expect to be able to drive to work, participate in commerce, and be trusted. Just because we failed at these things does not mean that we don’t believe in an orderly society and trusting relationships. We have all failed, regardless of your theistic views.

    (I am not including homosexuality in this “failed” statement.)

  6. victor pedraz Says:

    Who cares?

  7. Chris Says:

    BAT – Funny! You pointed out that “As a professor of liturgy at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome, surely Keith is well aware intellectually of the things of which he speaks;”

    The Executive Director of my daughter’s school went to that university and was a married priest before becoming an educator specializing in debate. He posted a plagiarized(!) paper on “Teaching Wisdom” in the school newsletter and I caught him doing it. We was fired 2 weeks later after trying to cover it up. Certainly there were other issues but I have to say I was very satisfied at the outcome. Wisdom indeed.

    Victor, it matters because it is offensive for moralists of this sort to wag their fingers at ordinary folks doing ordinary things when the death-cult they belong to harms enormous numbers of people and breeds things like the catholic sex abuse scandal. Methinks they doth protest too much. Behind the benign and vacant priestly smile is the heart of a scoundrel.