7th October 2008

“What is probably the oldest known bible is being digitised, reuniting its scattered parts for the first time since its discovery 160 years ago. It is markedly different from its modern equivalent. For those who believe the Bible is the inerrant, unaltered word of God, there will be some very uncomfortable questions to answer. The Codex, and other early manuscripts, do not mention the ascension of Jesus into heaven, and omit key references to the Resurrection.”

Roger Bolton

8 Responses to “7th October 2008”

  1. Critic Says:

    Uh, OK…I’m really curious now, which particular digitized bible is this and where can we find the text. I would love to send this to some godbots that I know….

  2. Admin Says:

    which particular digitized bible is this and where can we find the text.

    It’s the Codex Sinaiticus

  3. Terence Meaden Says:

    Of course, the fervent bible-worshippers adore their King James version.
    They ignore, or do not know, that for one-and-a-half thousand years the bible they love resulted from selective editing, cobbling, omitting, exaggerating, and fictionalizing.

    So what will happen now? The current generation of believers will totally ignore anything that they find uncomfortable. The Pope may well know about such doubts anyway, but he will never speak against unwanted truths either.

  4. The Bible Says:

    For another perspective, see below.

    <gratuitous paste…>

  5. The Bible Says:

    Don’t miss out on those comments in that BBC article, as well. Here is one example of someone who is not fooled in Bristol. Good for you, Frank of Bristol!

    Would it be too much to ask for a balancing voice in this article? The codex has been studied for years and globally the evangelical church is growing faster than ever so there must be a response. My understanding is that this codex was compiled by a Christian sect who even then was considered unorthodox and whilst it is the oldest complete bible many earlier copies of the gospels predate this codex. It is these gospels from which modern bibles are translated. They are both more numerous and closer in age to the events describe in the New Testement.
    Frank Hill, Bristol

  6. Chris Says:

    Where to begin? I’ll take a small nibble of the drivel.

    1. God = Life. If this is so, then God was created some time after the big bang and could therefore not be the creator of anything. If God = the natural world, congratulations, we’re all theists because we do believe in that. There is not now nor has there ever been any testable proof at all that there is a God so really why complicate perfectly reasonable and testable observations by inserting one where one is not needed? As for the rise of life, abiogenesis, we don’t know how that came about which is a more reasonable answer than a completely unsupportable “God done it.” If you can prove your assertion that “life came first”, prove it and we’ll all believe.

    2. Look at the Lamb! – What absolute tosh! You might consider the possibility that your saviour never actually existed. Here is good information backing up that assertion: http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/marshall_gauvin/did_jesus_really_live.html

    3.The Bible cannot be the unalterable word of an omnipotent God. Biblical scholarship makes it abundantly clear that the bible as it currently exists is the product of committee: Cut, pasted, redacted, edited – the text borrows from all the traditions available at the time, Jewish, Pagan, Animist. The “people” that “wrote” it are in many instances composites of many writers. The “people” that wrote of Jesus did so generations after he is supposed to have died so they could not have known him and their accounts of his life disagree on key points. If that’s the foundation on which you build your life you’ll never want for whiskey!

  7. Critic Says:

    So, we have someone, “The Bible,” who once again uses the Bible to prove that the Bible is true and that Jesus is real and that Christianity is the one true religion.

    Wow.

    How original.

    I’m totally convinced. Sign me up for the next crusade!

    Seriously, why would you use a collection of stories from illiterate desert nomads to try to make a point to adults in the 21st century? It just makes no sense at all to believe that the Bible is anything more than uninteresting mythology.

  8. Chris Says:

    Santa Claus is mentioned in many many books therefore Santa Claus exists. Same for the tooth fairy, the easter bunny, big foot, Nessie and the chupacabra. Land sakes! The world is positively brimming over with things that must exist simply because they appear in books. Why, just this morning I wrote in my journal that I’d mind a million-billion dollars in the trunk of my car and i’ll be dammed if it wasn’t there!