24th November 2008

“I know how, as an agnostic, the words 'one state under God' made me feel the first day I heard them in a classroom. They made me feel excluded by my state and uncomfortable. They created an internal conflict between religious beliefs and loyalty to my state that no person should ever have to face.”

Allison Harris

4 Responses to “24th November 2008”

  1. Richard Hopper Says:


  2. Tony Pro Says:

    I belong to a club (Toastmasters) that recites the Pledge of Allegiance before each meeting. 30 members and I think I’m the only one who remains silent during “under God”, yes it is annoying and a bit uncomfortable.
    I’ll continue to do what I have been doing, it’s not all that bad. But I have been trying to figure out what I could do differently, to no avail.
    Any ideas?
    We also start with an invocation where most bow there heads and say a few words of encouragement, thats fine. When I’m asked to do it, I use it to steer us in the right direction for the meeting which works fine. The more religulous sometimes outright pray, and my skin begins to crawl.

  3. Antitheist Says:

    I feel the same way whenever I spend money. Just knowing that I am carrying around “In God we trust” in my pocket, annoys me. As for the pledge, I don’t say anything at all through the whole thing, since I believe changing the words in 1947 changed the entire meaning, which I do not subscribe to! I’ve never been asked about it. If someone where to ask, I would not hesitate to state the truth as to why! However, I am outspoken and definitely NOT in the closet. I think the theist has a lot more to explain than I do. They are the ones who believe those superstitions are for real. I proudly wear a T-Shirt that says:

    Christianity ~ The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
    Makes perfect sense!

    Atheism ~ The belief that the above statement is a fairytale!

    I very much agree with a statement I read at TheAtheistAdvocate.com, which says that the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. An Atheist should never accept the burden of proving that god does not exist. The theist should prove that he does! And they can’t!!!

  4. Tony Pro Says:

    Wow, nice shirt!
    Sure could use that next time I’m asked to give the invocation.