5th June 2009

“Should parents should be allowed to and encouraged to sacrifice their children's educational and economic development for their own religious sensitivities, with the state picking up the bill?”


9 Responses to “5th June 2009”

  1. AtheistAdvocate Says:

    Mr. Anon,
    Could you repeat that in English?

  2. Edgar Wing Says:

    First, AtheistAdvocate: I know you’re better than that; I’ve read your stuff.

    But mainly: I think, yes, parents should be allowed to do this in a socialistic democracy such as ours, where we have public schools with curricula developed by the government (whether local or federal). The people, ideally, are the government. If we disagree with the ideas some people want to push on their kids, it’s up to us to “enlighten” them to change their minds. Do I want to live in a theocracy? Absolutely not! But I have faith (if you will) in the power of reality to overcome delusion, especially when it’s as useful or, likely, moreso, in achieving the human goals we all presumably have.

  3. John Sutton Says:

    This nonsense is. But I suspect that the answer would be no. I very much resent contributing towards faith schools and the promulgation of silly fairy tales through my taxes. The state does need to limit the freedom of parents in the way they raise their children but a religious education lies well within the bounds we should tolerate – but only at the expence of the parent.

  4. Please engage brain Says:

    The state will never get involved in how the voting public raise their children. Closing ALL faith schools and encouraging inter-faith (or lack of it) relationships is the only answer. Let the kids make up their own minds.

  5. The Heretic Says:

    That is quite statist to say that only the state should be able to educate children. Orwell would be horrified. Of course parents should be able to send their children to be educated where they wish. If they don’t want a public school, then they should have to pay for private, and without the governments help if it is a religious institution.

  6. Chris Says:

    Admin – the quote is jumbled up.

    State funds should never be used to support parochial education. People are free to spend their own money this way if they so choose but I’ll not have a dime of MY tax money going to support institutions that teach impressionable children that the earth is 6 thousand years old and that the rapture is right around the corner. Given the wide spectrum of belief, the only reasonable position for government is neutrality on the question of religion. That means none of the fakirs get my tax dollars.

  7. John Says:

    The anti-science-anti-freethinkers who wish to prove that their religious belief systems are correct, have systematically undermined and interjected their gods into the educational mainstream of America to a point where the public schools often find themselves having to cut back on teaching basic subjects out of fear of some kind of legal retribution and/or teacher’s; each and every time a state (California most recently) has a budget crisis or needs to cut back spending to scare or control the populous. Funny, you never hear them cutting back on religious vouchers or that faith-based dogma that the religious force on the kids everywhere you look in the US.
    Kind-a-sort-a reminds me of how the so called creation sciences work; best I can figure it; where science, biology and archeology starts with a question; they then look for the best answer; creation science on the other hand seems to start with an answer, then creates the question. So, do you need to know how to think?
    It appears to me that having parents force that dogma on their kids in some private mind clinic bags the question; if you keep them dumb, raise them stupid and control their thoughts at a young enough age; will you not get 8 years of da’bush and da’dick? Or…da’ 2 wars with 5000+ dead kids, da’ depression, da’ middle class disappearing, da’ millionaires becoming billionaires, da’ banking system collapse, da’ retirement accounts up in smoke and but above all “a christian nation”. How stupid will we become before to overcome our stupidly? Of course, I’m just a bitter anti-christ, rambling… please correct me if I’m wrong.

  8. AtheistAdvocate Says:

    I had to read this 27 times because of the improper use of grammar!

    My answer is NO, they should not have the right, nor be encouraged to risk their child’s education, in an effort to introduce spiritualism to them! If they wish to introduce their children to invisible friends, they can do so on their own time, on their own dime. Not in a tax funded school.

    As for private school, I think you should be encouraged to send your children to meet their invisible friend there, as long as you pay for it and the child can still meet the state’s minimum curriculum requirements. The same requirements that public schools must meet.

    In an ideal world, religion would ONLY be taught to children old enough to understand it, and ONLY at home or at their place of worship. Schools should be strictly used for academia.


  9. Chris Says:

    Well put AA.