15th November 2007

“Supporters of intelligent design think that if they see something they don't understand, it must be God. It appeals to ignorance, which is why there is a lot of it in American politics at the moment.”

Professor Steve Jones

11 Responses to “15th November 2007”

  1. Hypatia Says:

    Sadly, this is so true.

  2. Mike Says:

    This is probably one of the best one’s I’ve seen in a while. Very true.

  3. Thunder Says:

    That is not an observation. That is a cluster salvo. You pick up your weapons and they pick up their weapons and knock each other off while the meek will inherit the earth. Stereotypes are wrong even if you agree with them. They have a manufacture defect though to you they look nice and shiny new.

  4. Hypatia Says:

    Thunder said: “That is not an observation.”

    Oh yes it is – and spot on I’d say.

    I hear religious pundits offering all sorts of counter arguments for evolution but if you probe them in the slightest you discover they know absolutely nothing about it. They can’t be bothered to read even a basic overview because they already have the answer – it’s in their medieval book (though most of them haven’t read much of that either 🙂

  5. Thunder Says:

    * Oh yes it is *

    So your stereotype is correct?

    * I hear religious pundits offering all sorts of counter arguments for evolution but if you probe them in the slightest you discover they know absolutely nothing about it. *

    The ONLY way evolution is relevant is if everyone who supports intelligent design also rejects evolution. If that is not the case then you are off topic. Are you still suggesting to me that your stereotype is correct?

    * if you probe them in the slightest you discover they know absolutely nothing about it. *

    And I believe if I voidai you on the bible you couldn`t quantify your last contention. The only way you can quantify that is if you have intimate knowledge of the bible.

  6. Hypatia Says:

    “The ONLY way evolution is relevant is if everyone who supports intelligent design also rejects evolution.”

    What has this got to do with ignorance? The quotation is about ignorance. I would respectfully suggest that you are “off-topic”.

  7. Thunder Says:

    * What has this got to do with ignorance? *

    It takes two to come to an impass.

    * The quotation is about ignorance. *

    The quotation is assumptive accusation. In reality those who formulate intelligent design do so knowing the implications of any validity to that which is in opposition to it. The elementary argument in contradiction to origin of earth condition is in fact correct and the chances for the existence of a planet (accidentally) conditioned for life as we know it are (pardon the pun) astronomical.

    * I would respectfully suggest that you are “off-topic”. *

    I can`t be off topic. I know why it is that I contest the quotation. In a word hypocrisy.

    Your handles sounds familiar….. Have we butted heads on the yahoo message boards?

  8. Hypatia Says:

    “The chances for the existence of a planet (accidentally) conditioned for life as we know it are astronomical.”

    Please cite source – otherwise I might be tempted to think you’re making this up because it suits your argument 🙂

    “Have we butted heads on the yahoo message boards?”

    I don’t think I’ve had that pleasure.

  9. Thunder Says:

    * Please cite source – otherwise I might be tempted to think you’re making this up because it suits your argument *

    The facts are peppered throughout scientists facts. The earth being seeded with water by comets. A shift in the balance of co2 effecting climactic change. A shift of 4 deg in the earths orbit making life unsustainable. Those are just a few off the top of my head. If you truely know anything about the subject in question you have heard these facts cast about. And I don`t make things up. I listen.

  10. Hypatia Says:

    I guessing you wouldn’t be very convinced by this:

    http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/First_earthlike_planet_outside_solar_system_discovered

  11. Thunder Says:

    * I guessing you wouldn’t be very convinced by this *

    You seem to have me confused. My first post should have given you ample indication that I do not support the intelligent design movement. And NO it wouldn`t convince me. It seems rather flippant of anti-christs to suggest that they stand upon emperical evidence and then tout such speculative unsubstantiation. It is yet another indication of their blatant hypocrisy.