27th October 2009

“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

John Adams1735 – 1826

8 Responses to “27th October 2009”

  1. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    Thank God!

  2. jbk Says:

    This was not said or written by John Adams. It is part of a sentence in the Treaty of Tripoli. Which was signed by John Adams.

  3. sjburnt Says:

    jbk, your point is well taken. However, as you point out, he signed it, and he certainly did not disagree:

    “Now be it known, That I John Adams, President of the United States of America, having seen and considered the said Treaty do, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, accept, ratify, and confirm the same, and every clause and article thereof. And to the End that the said Treaty may be observed and performed with good Faith on the part of the United States, I have ordered the premises to be made public; And I do hereby enjoin and require all persons bearing office civil or military within the United States, and all other citizens or inhabitants thereof, faithfully to observe and fulfill the said Treaty and every clause and article thereof.” John Adams

    Any way around it is an interesting and useful bit of history. Thanks for catching the mis-quote.

  4. Admin Says:

    This was not said or written by John Adams.

    Any idea who did write it?

  5. jbk Says:

    I’m not saying that John Adams did not approve of it, just that it should not be attributed to John Adams. In fact if I recall correctly the Treaty of Tripoli was unanimously passed by congress which would mean everyone in congress agreed with the statement.

    Joel Barlow, U.S. Consul General of Algiers, appears to have wrote it. At least according to various web sources.

  6. Admin Says:

    Joel Barlow, U.S. Consul General of Algiers, appears to have wrote it.

    Thanks. I’ll amend the database. This quote is too important to discard.

  7. Mister Wise Says:

    Interesting… Richard Dawkins in the “God Delusion,” attributes this quote from the Treaty with Tripoli to George Washington.

  8. Chris Says:

    Since that quote was not Adams, here’s my personal favorite:

    “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it”
    -John Adams