17th November 2009

“The religious tend to confuse ridicule with persecution, a common but narcissistic mistake.”


14 Responses to “17th November 2009”

  1. Chris Says:

    They’d better get used to it.

  2. PEB Says:

    Not to some people of the Islamic faith. The cartoons of their prophet Muhammad that appeared in a Danish newspaper recently caused riots because they felt he was being ridiculed.
    This had nothing to do with persecution but with an ill-conceived notion that their beliefs are above critisism.

  3. Ivan Says:

    Critisism is a form of persecution and a lack of respect for ones beliefs. Also people who say they are unbelievers need to mind their own affairs, less bickering that way.

  4. PEB Says:

    “Critisism is a form of persecution” – that is absolute nonsense. If you criticised a book or a piece of art work then you are not persecuting the author or artist.
    The religious hate criticism because it embarrassingly highlights the faults in their fairy-tale beliefs.

  5. Ivan Says:

    Praise the lord.I’m glad he allows us our freedom to believe.

  6. Hypatia Says:

    Praise the lord.Iā€™m glad he allows us our freedom to believe.

    So you imagine that there might be a god that prohibits or prevents you from believing in him? Bizarre.

  7. PEB Says:

    “unbelievers need to mind their own affairs, less bickering that way.” – posted to an Atheist QOTD site!

  8. Ivan Says:


  9. Admin Says:


    I always do.

  10. Brian Delrosario Says:

    Typical attitude not just of believers, but of many other groups: minorities, majorities, political parties, the obese, the skinny, men, women…even us non-believers… The attitude being, “I’m a victim.” Given the list, I’m sure we can see that we have more victims than people. Your thoughts? Glory be. Praise the lord.

  11. Chris Says:

    “Criticism is a form of persecution…” Wow. What an incredibly idiotic statement. So… by criticizing the criticism, Ivan, you’ve just persecuted everyone in the “we don’t need kneepads” camp. Bravo.

  12. Chris Says:

    And, by the way, why is a lack of respect for someone’s belief necessarily a bad thing? Are you respectful of a billion Muslim’s contention that Jesus was NOT the son of God but rather just a semi-important prophet? Need we not ridicule the admittedly few people that STILL believe the earth is flat? Is it not a moral responsibility to ridicule, condemn and jail those that let their children die from, say, influenza because their precious religious beliefs won’t let them give their poor stricken child a fucking aspirin?

    Sorry pal, there are many many beliefs that people of higher moral development can and ought to oppose because they are damaging, dangerous and unjustifiable. The 9/11 and 7/7 terrorists had their cherished beliefs. We are under no obligation to view such systems of thought with anything other than derision.

  13. sjburnt Says:

    Come on, you people must know Ivan is baiting. No one is that – well, never mind.

  14. Chris Says:

    Yes, I agree completely that Ivan just comes here to bait. In fact, he seems to be a master-baiter. The only reason to respond would be that other theists probably check in here and I’d hate for them to see such inane comments go unchallenged. Leaves money on the table, as it were. šŸ™‚