29th November 2007

“I've no belief whatever in a deity outside of man; it seems to me to be perfectly clear that the Bible's story gets it completely the wrong way round. It's not God creates man, it's Man who creates god. It's a human construct.”

David Starkey

13 Responses to “29th November 2007”

  1. Thunder Says:

    * It’s a human construct. *

    Most of the time that is true.

    * I’ve no belief whatever in a deity outside of man *

    Such a belief defies the logical certainty of extraterrestrial life. It is yet another hypocrisy.

  2. GJK Says:

    “Such a belief defies the logical certainty of extraterrestrial life.”

    How? He’s talking about god not aliens.

  3. Thunder Says:

    * He’s talking about god not aliens. *

    A difference which exists only in your preconceived expectations.

  4. GJK Says:

    “A difference which exists only in your preconceived expectations.”

    So you’re saying the word “aliens” means the same as the word “god”?

    This doesn’t appear to be true in my dictionary.

  5. Thunder Says:

    * So you’re saying the word “aliens” means the same as the word “god”? *

    The quoter doesn`t seem to have a problem stretching the definition of deity to include men and we know that men can certainly be aliens. A provocative idea does not suffer from reasonability because it injures your ego.

  6. GJK Says:

    So you are saying the word “aliens” means the same as the word “god”.

    Since it doesn’t, what you’re saying is rubbish.

  7. Thunder Says:

    * So you are saying the word “aliens” means the same as the word “god”. *
    I`m absolutely positive that is not what I said.

    * Since it doesn’t *

    Irrelevant.

    * what you’re saying is rubbish. *

    PROVE IT!

  8. GJK Says:

    “PROVE IT!”

    I don’t need to – you’ve done it yourself.

  9. Thunder Says:

    * I don’t need to – you’ve done it yourself. *

    The only thing that has been proved is that you lack critical thinking skills. You want to haggle over trivials the fact is the only one who has mentioned (a) god is you. You are trumping up stuff and it is clear that your motive is antagonism and not reason.

  10. GJK Says:

    Thunder – everything you’ve written since your original post has been evasive. You never answer a direct question with a direct answer – you simply raise a different issue!

    This isn’t debate – it’s sophistry.

    If you’re not prepared to justify your statements why do you think any of us should take you seriously?

  11. Admin Says:

    Guys (I assume) – please can we maintain a respectful tone (and avoid swearing).

    I like to keep comments open and unmoderated but this requires some self-discipline on your part.

  12. Thunder Says:

    * Thunder – everything you’ve written since your original post has been evasive. *

    The only thing I have evaded is your attempt to pigeonhole me into your scripted conversation.

    * You never answer a direct question with a direct answer *

    I most certainly did. I said I`m absolutely sure I didn`t say what you claim I said.

    * you simply raise a different issue! *

    What different issue? There is two people….one atheist and one christian….staring at the night sky and they both say what?????? They both say the same thing….. how can anyone look at that and think we are alone. THAT IS IRONY!

  13. Thunder Says:

    Admin,

    I think you are doing a wonderful job.