24th December 2009

“All December-early January holidays originated with celebrations of the Winter Solstice, which is everyone's to celebrate, regardless of religion or lack thereof. The reason for the season is the Earth's 23.5 degree axial tilt. Of course, those from other planets would be celebrating at a different time.”

Anon.

23 Responses to “24th December 2009”

  1. Holysmokes Says:

    If memory serves, we have Constantine to thank for hijacking these celebrations 17 centuries ago. It was the only way he could consolodate his power, by appeasing the christians.

  2. John Says:

    Now come on solomon, you make it sound that attacking a person because they are a homosexual should be the next new blood sport on HBO or something. Is it to enforce your human compassion as preached by your preachers in your faith? If man is the center of the universe and everything was created for man by a prefect god, as I understand you to state; then why would a perfect god create a homosexual flaw in the perfect man? Would that not make your god imperfect? Or was he just F N around…

  3. Chris Says:

    These dilemmas are old and have never been answered in anything like a satisfying way by the puerile theological arguments of the religionists. They create their own paradoxes by overlaying their own prejudices on their imaginary god.

    Epicurus had it figured out 300 years before Jesus:

    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil?”

    So which is it? Is god, impotent or malevolent? In the face of the obvious existence of evil, those are the two choices.

    P.S.
    Islam a religion of peace? Recent events seem to argue against that proposition. I’ve got a page from the Danish funny papers that offers further evidence against Muslims being peaceful, non-threatening folks. $11mil reward for the beheading of the cartoonist responsible for “insulting” your prophet? Rioting to protest having someone call your religion violent? It’s enough to make a cat laugh. And you dare claim your religion is peaceful? Please. It’s rotten in the root. Sell your crazy some place else – we’re all full up here.

  4. solomon Says:

    Dear John,
    God does not create homosexual.Its the human lusts it self that creates it.Don’t try to blame god for what one have done to themselves.God have created men perfectly physically with its manhood organs that is conducive for one to be a man.But they themselves out of lusts try to be or try to poses a soul of a women.Its not a flaw or something that is inborn inside a man.Homosexuals are men made.They can just ignor or avoid that misguided urgh much earlier before it becomes a habit.And god too have warned of the bad consequences if one is involve with.And that will not make god imperfect at all.And god is not playing around with his creations.There will always be a purpose.

  5. solomon Says:

    Dear Chris,
    Are you gettin shaky with what I’ve been commenting as you try to drove me away from this blog.If youre the men of truth you will not want to do that.You Atheists always try to refer to some lousy greek scholars in your views.Epicurus or others are just some misguided fools who depends only on their thinking without the divine knowledge.
    It’s only you yourself creating & limiting whats god suppose to be.God is far above what youre labelled with.
    Islam has made it a clear cut that its the religion of peace.Those who take other options are either misguided or act out of reaction to anger/provoke or out of normal human behaviour.

  6. Hypatia Says:

    Islam has made it a clear cut that its the religion of peace.

    Then why are so many Shias killing so many Sunnis and vice versa? Don’t seem so peaceful to me.

  7. solomon Says:

    Dear Hypatia,
    Youre confused between the teachings and the implementation of Islam.The teachings of Islam is always peace.But humans tend to break rules out of anger or interests.The one who follow the rules will get the benefit and those who don’t will have to answer to god.Now youre looking at the peoples behaviour not the teachings.Even in other religions there will always be someone who broke rules.So don’t blame Islam itself.

  8. PEB Says:

    solomon. I’m sure there are many followers of Islam who live very peaceful lives and are appalled by some of the actions committed in it’s name. However the text in the Qu’ran is open to all sorts of extremist interpretations which means followers are free to kill non-believers, stone rape victims, abuse women etc etc.
    No other book in the history of the world has caused so much suffering (the bible comes a close second). All followers of Islam are responsible for the actions of the few.
    What is worrying is that you hardly ever hear ‘regular’ followers of Islam stand-up and condemn the extremists.

  9. PEB Says:

    Back to the quote though. This is interesting seasonal reading:

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427392.400-pain-or-prayer-two-ways-to-grow-a-religion.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

    I think we can all be thankful we are not Aranda Aboriginals at Christmas time.

    “The initiate is first circumcised then made to lie face down for the excruciatingly painful head-biting rite in which between two and five men bite his scalp, and sometimes his chin, as hard as they can to draw blood. Next, his penile urethra is slit with a stone knife and, finally, he is taken to one side to squat on top of a shield where the blood flowing from his wounds is collected.”

  10. John Says:

    Solomon:

    That sounds like Hate Crime language spouted by some very sick and mentally ill preachers that hate people for being different or maybe as they are and do in the dark. As an outsider looking in, your religion is full of some very misguided people that hate other humans for being different. I am not a homosexual however, I have several friends that are and I would take a million friends being Gay over a single islamic friend that spouts the venom you spread. Just today in the news; 25 more of your faithful people where blown up and killed by … your loving religion. But, I guess that’s ok, right? ‘Cause after all that’s religion and god works in monstrous ways!

  11. Holysmokes Says:

    Hi Solomon, I don’t understand how you can sound so sure of yourself when you have no evidence regarding the validity of your religion. Like Christians, you appear to have nothing more than an old book, written by some very superstitious people. Why would anyone be foolish enough to, “hand their hat” on such stuff? Do you offer any actual evidence, or just rhetoric?

  12. Chris Says:

    Sol- No matter how you try and spin it, it is NOT normal human behavior to murder and riot because someone publishes a cartoon. We all noticed that the number of your brothers involved was not a few. The atrocities continue every day and speak for themselves. I’ll have none of it from your religion whose very name is a threat to human rights and free thought.

    From your peaceful book:

    ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

    O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred… (8:65)

    Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)

    Is it any wonder you act as you do? Your peaceful book gives you the licence to.

  13. tony cynic Says:

    Happy Newton day from Oz. I’m off to work.

  14. solomon Says:

    Dear Peb,
    You get the whole wrong idea of what is cited in the qoran.Have you finished reading it or is it told by someone who equally don’t understand or simply make wild statements about it?.Let me clarify.Therse no single verse in the qoran stating ‘followers are free to kill non-believers, stone rape victims, abuse women etc etc.’Show me one if there is.This is a very clear & big lie.In islam nobody can kill a single soul without cause or law.Lies about islam have blown out of proportion.I can’t believe you are smack right on your face with these lies.Read and study carefully the contents of the qoran & then come back to me.

  15. solomon Says:

    Dear Peb,
    Adding to your previous comments,Islam does not sporsor extremism or what soever.As I’ve mention earlier it is the religion of peace.Its not the book that cause a lot of sufferings,its the reader,the followers with little understanding of its contents & with scarce traces of faith that did the damage.True followers condemn any act of extremism or violence without cause.Some reject it from their heart & some through statements or demonstrations that is not made public(anti islamic media that always wanted to hide the muslims true standings)

  16. solomon Says:

    Dear John,
    Their actions are not religion.Their actions are their own human reactiion.Don’t try to confuse the viewers by connecting ones actions with religion.It’s clear cut that religion teaches good values,its just human who always broke the rules and that includes whether your a christian,a hindu,an atheist or claim to be a muslim.And you dare to blame religion & god for ones actions.
    Muslim does not hate anybody,even the animals,and all living & non living things.They love them all.But if god hate something then they will follow what god hates.And god won’t hate something without cause.God knows what is good and bad for humans.Gays are not different.They are being indifferent.

  17. solomon Says:

    Dear Holysmokes,
    Have you read the contents of what you call “an old book”?If not don’t simply make a wild statement about it.The atheist have a common behaviour of denying truth through condemnation without knowledge.They have no idea to prove a point,and they won’t be able to coz theres no way to deny truth.
    What more evidence do you want after all that contains in “the old book” is very clear as a bright sunny day.
    The old book is gods own words poured into the heart of Prophet Mohammad(pbuh) through the mediator the angel gabrail.Mohammad then dictate it to several scholars who wrote it in the form of ‘the old book’ or the qoran.
    The old book tells about history,the past and the future,things that have been known and unknown to men,medicine,science,astronomy,the big bang,creations & creators,planetary bodies,physics,chemistry,mathematics that no other books can offer.And the words is arranged in such a poetic manner that the most prolific poet at that time could not produce even a single verse.How can Mohammad the illiterate produce such a book that contain words that have no contradictions at all throughout its entire contents and also not contradict with the real events that have been going around since eternity.Now what more evidence do you want.What makes one refuse to believe all these proofs.Now who are the foolish ones?

  18. solomon Says:

    Dear Chris,
    “ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)”
    Do you know why this verse is cited?This is a warning to those who disbelieve,who have done a lot of damage,who blindly follows their lusts after truth have come to them.Its not to determine the negative aspect of the peace book as you try to labelled it.
    “O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred… (8:65) ”
    and this verse came about to raise the spirit of believers to engage in war against the unbelievers.What youre trying to show here(by pieces of the verse,not as a whole) is to deceive the viewer into thinking the believers are the war oriented lots.Believers does not simply engaged in war if not for their interest or security is in danger or if someone declare war on them first.
    “Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)” This verse is incomplete.The complete version is as below;

    “Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve,because they did’nt have faith(8:55)”

    Well its up to you & the viewers to think whether I’am trying to spin things around after all my clear explanations regarding this matter.You can also find my explanation on my comments to Peb & John above.

  19. The Heretic Says:

    Perhaps Islam is a very hateful religion to everyone that disbelieves in Islam. But that is not tolerant? or OK? Maybe Islam is hate of anything different than Islam….that rings true.

  20. solomon Says:

    Dear Heretic,
    Do you have any concrete reasons to support your statements.Yeah Islam is hated by nonbelievers coz they are not free to do what their lusts pleases.Satisfying lusts leads to all sorts of destructions.No Islam is not about hating.Islam is about supporting the truth,following gods instructions so that humans can live decently in this world.People who do not follow Islam teachings are the ones who do most of the damage or destruction to all kinds of fields whether in politics,religion,economy or social.

  21. John Says:

    If I had to sit and bounce my head up and down 5 times a day while rope learning something that and old preacher forced into my head…. I would willingly kill too!!!

  22. solomon Says:

    Dear John,
    There is no forcing in this true religion.The benefits awaits the true followers and the danger too awaits the unbelievers.The ill thought is what as you have quoted “I would willingly kill too!!!” is already implant in the infidels heart who have never “bounce their head up and down 5 times a day”

  23. John Says:

    So, if I where a citizen of an islamic country and did not attend mosque, would I be allowed to openly live in that country?