20th January 2010

“Why do the gods always pass on their true word to the most illiterate person they can find? Is it so they can blame the messenger when it all goes wrong?”

Anon.

26 Responses to “20th January 2010”

  1. solomon Says:

    Dear Skeptic Anon,

    God pass true word to the illiterate(we don’t know whether he’s the most illiterate) because people will realize the words will surely not made up by the messenger.

  2. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    Are you demonstrating this for us, Sol?

  3. solomon Says:

    Dear CaptainZero1969,

    I’am demonstrating for anyone who feel the need to.

  4. brighter future Says:

    Kind of a dumb quote…

  5. Bornagain A. Theist Says:

    This is amazing, CZ. When I read the quote, I thought, “OK, one or the other of our special theists is going to comment on this and bring it fully 3D to life. I was not disappointed.

    “Anon” was even addressed as “Skeptic Anon”, and the chances of his actually responding our responses here are quite slim, indeed.

    BAT

  6. Greg Says:

    The literacy of “prophets” is meaningless. Most people in those times were illiterate. Some things change. Others are called Solomon.

  7. solomon Says:

    Dear Greg ,
    You have unrealizingly declare yourself an idiot. Illiterate people will appear anywhere regardless of time. Periods older than those times have produce literate people like the egypt civilisation etc. God purposely create illiterate people to accomplish his schemes.

  8. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    God creates illiterates. Astonishing. I thought it was lack of access to education. And, by the way, Greg was right. He says MOST people were illiterate. This is unquestionably true. It is still true in large swaths of the world though enormous progress has been made. In those places, fantasy, witches, spirits, demons and gods still hold sway. And you can’t even get good scotch.

  9. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    No comment. Take it away, Solomon!

  10. solomon Says:

    Dear CaptainZero1969,
    Theres no need to be astonished.Its a fact.
    The main point God creates illiterates.The process, let it be lack of access to education or etc. etc. is out of the topic of discussion. The fact is theres still millions out there who is illiterate up to this day no matter how enormous progress has been made. All youre interested is just gettin’ yourself intoxicated.
    “O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab, and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful”

    [al-Maa’idah 5:90]
    Looks like Oxymoronic Christhinker is giving up.

  11. Atheist MC Says:

    The more interesting question, is not whether or not the recipient of God’s word is illiterate, but why is it always delivered to a single individual at all. What is so difficult for God about broadcasting his desires to everyone at once. He’s omnipotent after all.
    Could it be that Moses, and Mohammed (as opposed to Jesus who theologically is a different animal) just had a darn’ good political reasons to pretend to be in direct contact with the local deity?

  12. PEB Says:

    Thats a good point Atheist MC. Imagine you are god for one minute. Do you:

    a) Implant your message, a moral code and belief system into everyone directly.
    b) Leave it to illiterate people to write about your ideas in such a way that they are completely open to interpretation.

    It simply doesn’t make any sense why so many people believe what they are told from a book. A book!

  13. solomon Says:

    Dear Atheist MC,

    A silly answer to your question will be this way;
    Its not appropriate for god to broadcast his rules to everyone all at once. Some might have not been born or will exist a few thousand years later. So he send a messenger & put it into a book so that all are informed regardless of time. Will that be the right & logical way to do the broadcating? If god delivered his rules to a couple of messengers than the people will ask; Why do god delivers the same set of rules to so many people. One would suffice.
    If Moses & Mohammad just had a darn’ good political reasons, they will be the richest human on earth. Have you heard any landed property in the name of Moses or Mohammad?

  14. PEB Says:

    “Its not appropriate for god to broadcast his rules to everyone all at once. Some might have not been born or will exist a few thousand years later.” – He’s omnipotent! – He can do what he likes. Also, are you saying god is now dead or incapable of doing such a thing?

  15. Atheist MC Says:

    Solomon, if only you had the wisdom of your namesake.
    God makes souls right? Why not imbue every soul with the knowledge of God, why aren’t we born with the will of Allah burnt into the fibre of our being?

    Your point about Moses and Mohammed doesn’t stand. They made ample political and financial capital of their position at the time. Moses’ dynasty (via Arron) became the temple keepers, mediating between the rest of the tribes and God. Consequently they were the only ones who didn’t have to hunt, farm or otherwise toil ‘cos God (Moses?) mader it a rule that everyone else had to bring food offerings to the tabernacle to be burnt (cooked) to the glory of God (who has a strange appetite for cooked flesh for a supposedly dis-corporate entity), but was expected to be eaten by the priests. Priesthood has privaleges! and Mohammed had plenty of those as well.

  16. Tony Provenzano Says:

    Epicurus can cure us here.

    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?”

  17. John Says:

    If all that god crap’s is supposed to be so great; why was the knowledge of it not implanted as an instinct much like breathing or a beating heart?

  18. Atheist MC Says:

    Patience John. Solomon will reveal all, wait and see 🙂

  19. Greg Says:

    WTF? I’m an idiot for stating a simple fact, Solomon? There’s just no pleasing you, is there, princess?

  20. Greg Says:

    Solomon’s God sure likes creating misery among us mere humans, doesn’t he? Illiterates, amputees, Islam….

  21. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    The founders of the various religions may have been illiterate. I don’t know. But what is clear is that they were cunning and highly skilled manipulators of people. They were the beneficiaries of a long tradition of tribal shamen that in their turn manipulated people via the interpretation of “signs” and use of psychoactive drug states to induce religious awe. It was a scary world, and those that could make it less so by claiming to have a special relationship with various deities were, I’m sure, highly prized.

    It’s not hard to see how such men (by and large) created guilds of inherited special position. All the “prophets” of Judaism, Christianity and now Islam(icide) were merely members of and refiners of the magicians guild. They had to know they were deceiving their fellows or they were simply insane. Such cynicism ought not be lauded.

  22. Bornagain A. Theist Says:

    No, Sol, I don’t expect Oxy is “giving up”, but you do wear on us when you ignore facts, present none of you own and continue using language and sentence structures that are not the result of your having learned English as a second language, but are the result of your unwillingness to learn. Your responses have reminded me of the following flash animation of an actual “conversation” that was found on Yahoo Answers. Person number one asks an illiterately phrased, ignorant question and ends up choosing, as the “best answer” to the question, an answer by person number two which is nothing more than illiterate rambling about a completely unrelated subject: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/babby

  23. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    DUDE. That was awesome.

  24. tony cynic Says:

    As (r)Sol says, ‘god creates illiterates.’ The reverse is also true in that
    Illiterates create gods.

  25. Greg Says:

    Good point, tony.

  26. solomon Says:

    Dear All,

    I have read all of your comments above and at this point I can summed up that most of it contain lies,skeptics & mere accusations.
    I will try to answer your comments lengthily some other times coz I’am on medical leave.