22nd January 2010

“Plato, Epicurus, Democritus and so on, were discussing ethics long before the concept of God as the ultimate source of judgment on morality became prevalent.”

Anon.

37 Responses to “22nd January 2010”

  1. solomon Says:

    “God on the other hand have long long before Plato, Epicurus, Democritus and so on thought about what to do about them on judgement day”

  2. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    Yes, Sol, I agree. Man invented god, or rather gods long before the Greeks. I disagree that god would have spared much thought on what to do about people that hadn’t yet been born because he was and is imaginary.

    There’s a significant problem with your statement. I presume that you’re saying god was occupied with figuring out what to do with these philosophers on judgement day because they displeased His Imaginariness. If they hadn’t yet been born, then how could they displease Him? Unless He knew before they were born that they would later displease him in which case they had no free will and are hardly responsible for said displeasing actions.

    By this sad reasoning, His Douchiness created these great thinkers intentionally to toss them in hell. That makes god a giant prick. I’ll tell him you said so, at least by implication.

  3. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    God – I know you follow the goings on here in pretty minute detail but in case you got busy and might’ve missed it I wanted you to know Solomon thinks your a giant prick. I’m not sure what led him to impugn your reputation in this way.

    P.S.
    He also thinks you are responsible when people (including children) lose limbs or are burned and that you’re doing it for their own good. Tried to talk him out of it but he’s quite sure. Maybe you’ll have better luck.

  4. Greg Says:

    Cap’n, God amputates babies to “maybe” prevent them from using these same limbs for “evil” in the future. Remember that wonderful nugget of gold from Solomon? Anyway, if the baby doesn’t live that long, though, I believe God was just amputating the baby for shits and giggles. Oh that God, what a prankster!

  5. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    This site is perilously close to becoming the ‘Solomon Quote of the Day.’ Even worse, Solomon’s quotes are essentially pointless variations on the same freakin’ thing, day in and day out, ad infinitum. Yawn.

  6. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    BTW, I sort of half disagree with the quote, I think(?). The “concept of God (or the Gods) as the ultimate source of judgment on morality” has been around for a lot longer than our intrepid philosophers, though it may have taken till the advent of the so-called Judeo-Christian-and yes, Islamic ethic to become “prevalent.” The real problem is the seemingly arbitrary, relative, non-absolute nature of ethics and morality. Which, of course, brings into question the entire concept of the “concept of God as the ultimate source of judgment on morality.” It’s not a question of when, but of whether.

  7. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    Greg: Could I please get the title of the book dictated to the unicorn by the ten foot tall, furry, long-wristed, brown-as-bark-eyed, illiterate weasel you mentioned? Sounds really interesting! Does it have pictures? I like pictures!

  8. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    Cap’n: Solomon’s statement is even worse than you point out (yes, I am writing this as I yawn). God apparently had to think about what to do with our philosophers even before they were born. Logically, this indicates that God did not omnisciently know what to do. Which in turn implies that he had to wait to see what would happen, which in turn indicates that he i . . . oh never mind. Yawn. My head hurts.

  9. solomon Says:

    Dear Oxymoronic Christhinker,

    You are just twisting the meaning of my quote.The viewers can judge that.

    Viewers, please read my quote again carefully and you will find how this ill hearted dude try to deceave.

  10. solomon Says:

    Dear Oxymoronic Christhinker,

    You are just twisting the meaning of my quote.The viewers can judge that.

    Viewers, please read my quote again carefully and you will find how this ill hearted dude try to deceive.

  11. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    Uh . . . yawn.

  12. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    Oxymoronic Christhinker Quote of the Day:

    Solomon’s quotes come equipped with twisted meaning already installed. Yawn.

  13. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    Battle of the theists on Atheist Quote of the Day. Hilarious! My apologies, Admin . . .

  14. God Says:

    Solomon,

    My son, you are bat-shit crazy. I’m hoping you will buy another book and try and learn a few things about the real world. Honestly, if I actually was omniscient I’d prevent a lot of the crazy-ass shit your co-religionists are doing in my name. Frankly, it’s embarrassing. I’m don’t disfigure people and It’s irritating to have to make this explicit. For the record, Mohammad wasn’t my spokesman and I had to send him to hell for a week to punish him for his bullshit.

    Grow up. Please.

    God Or Allah, if you prefer.

    P.S. I’m actually past the formality so just call me Larry.

  15. solomon Says:

    Dear chicken Anonymous ( I think its Capt’n)

    Trying to be God?
    You will be damned in Hell for your words.
    You are just out of argument.

  16. Hypatia Says:

    I think the quote is correct in saying that god has not always had the roles that people give him nowadays.

    Greek gods were a dissolute lot, much given to arguing amongst each other. Other primitive gods had the characteristics of human megalomaniacs and had to be appeased with sacrifices. Neither were considered to be moral role models.

    When did all this guilt and judgement creep in?

  17. Atheist MC Says:

    You are just out of argument.

    Hmmm… I don’t actually recall ever having seen you advance one.

    On the quote: I basically see xianity as an attempt to reconcile platonic ethics with judaism, which it actually achieves in some respects. Islam is doing its darnest to reverse this.

  18. Uber-God Says:

    Oi! Yahweh, or Larry whatever you call yourself these days. I told you millenia ago to stop trying to communicate with these earthlings. It causes nothing but trouble, look what happened the last few times.
    Now behave and don’t make me interupt my non-existance again.

  19. The Heretic Says:

    I enjoy reading the philosophers of Greece and those of the enlightenment a few hundred years ago. As we slowly eradicate the world of religion and their “morals and ethics”, I hope that we have something to replace them with. A resurgence of philosophical thought needs to occur. Not that I wish to replace a god with philosophers, but something will need to fill that vacuum. People who actually sit around and think might be a good first step.

  20. solomon Says:

    All you Atheist,

    All of you will surely be condemned to HELL!! Just wait & see.Its not too long.You will be surely condemned to Hell!! Now you can use & twist freely with your language & your lies, wait till you see the Fires of Hell . Go to Hell with your evolution theory. Its all lies followed by dumb ill hearted fools.

    Dear viewers don’t be mislead by these ungratful lots. Save yourself. I SWEAR there is no god but Allah.Think people, how come these wondrous creations have no creator.Ask those fools if theyre willing to SWEAR.
    If they pretend swearing they will be cursed here on earth.

  21. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    I feel compelled to point out, again, that there is no hell. We’re not afraid of it and your continual ranting about it is, well, silly. I SWEAR I have no reason to believe in allah. Allah is a meaningless word. As you yourself pointed out before, God=Nothing. Allah has as much backing him up as unicorns: They both appear in works of pure fiction.

    Where is your proof? If you’re so certain that your invisible father figure exists, where is your proof? The viewers would really like to see it. But you haven’t got any, do you? Just a moldy old book written by a crafty and power hungry deceiver in the desert. Old books are not proof of anything. Swearing that god is real doesn’t make him real but it does make a person look like an idiot for thinking that this somehow constitutes proof.

    And why are you condemning us to HELL? Because we’re bad people? No. Only because we won’t believe in something for which there is zero proof. Zero. You are condemning hundreds of millions of people for the crime of using their brains. You position is immoral but you can’t see this because your religion has turned your brain into pudding. All you’ve got are emotion filled rants.

    “FIX REASON FIRMLY IN HER SEAT, AND CALL TO HER TRIBUNAL EVERY FACT, EVERY OPINION. QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS EVEN THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD; BECAUSE, IF THERE BE ONE, HE MUST MORE APPROVE THE HOMAGE OF REASON, THAN THAT OF BLINDFOLDED FEAR.”
    -THOMAS JEFFERSON

    This sums up why I fear no hell even if a god does turn out to exist. God would not be burdened with your vicious, petty and primitive world view.

  22. Greg Says:

    LOL Sol! We’re not out of argument – you don’t listen to them.

    I think we’ve realized that it’s just a whole lot more fun waiting to see what kind of stupidity you’ll come up with next and then making fun of you.

    Sol, you’re our muse.

  23. Greg Says:

    Sol, I SWEAR THERE IS NO GOD. If there is, let him strike me dead RIGHT NOW!!

    See, nothing!

    Maybe I can ask him to amputate a baby for me…..

  24. Greg Says:

    Dear Uber-God (aka Zeus)

    Please grant me the patience to withstand the stupidity of those who believe in Allan….er….Allah, God, Christ, Mohammed the pedophile, and the other hundreds of other false gods and prophets. You, oh Uber-God (Zeus), are truly the most mighty and powerful God of all Gods, creator of the rubiks cube and other assorted fun stuff, like whoopee cushions and fake shit.

    Amen.

  25. solomon Says:

    Dear Greg,

    So youre the first one to pretend SWEARING. Just wait for a while or two. You will regret…

    Amen…

  26. solomon Says:

    Dead CaptainZero1969,

    And you too capt’n will be cursed on earth.

    Amen…..

  27. solomon Says:

    All the ATHEIST

    No doubt God is real. You will see HELL & it is a must you will see it & you will be thrown to it. No more pretending. Your time is not far. For sure I SWEAR & SWEAR again & again there is god.God does’nt need for me to prove he exist. But in our hearts we know he exist and as well as you or others know it but your ill heart choose to deny. Youre not confident there is no god and youre sure in a worry but SATAN had a better hand of you.

  28. Greg Says:

    Oh Sol. You’re such a pitiful excuse for a human being. But deep down we love you. Really! Like, six feet down….

    Anyway, I’m still waiting for you to prove to me that a unicorn didn’t dictate the age of the universe to a 10 foot weasel who wrote it in a book, which I then read. Hands up for those who believe me.

  29. Greg Says:

    Ooooo, I’m scared of hell. Ooooo.

    With this global warming thing, though, I wonder if that’s just caused by a leak in hell? Maybe it’s just “balmy” there now instead of “wicked fucking hot”?

    Either way, we’ll never know because it’s made up silly shit for imbiciles.

  30. solomon Says:

    YOU ALL WILL REGRET!!!!!

    I SWEARRR!!!!

  31. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    “But deep down we love you. Really! Like, six feet down….”

    ROFLMAO.

    arrrr! grrr! nashing of teeth…

    Sol, you are one funny dude. Get a grip! Swearing something is true or will happen doesn’t make it so. This is very basic and doesn’t pass for an argument.

    I think we do all owe you and Tech a debt of gratitude. You’ve really livened things up here with your parade of nonsensical and adamant professions of faith that have moved the “viewers” not one atom. But sadly you’re a one trick pony and I’m tiring of indulging you.

    Your pronouncements are silly and less than meaningless. You offer nothing to the debate of any value (beyond amusement). You are incapable of introspection and have no grasp of science or philosophy. Why exactly do you choose to stay? Please do, if only as a jarring reminder of why silly cults ought to be resisted.

  32. Greg Says:

    I WILL NOT REGRET!!!!

    I SWEARRRR! (note the extra R. I’m more sweary than Sol….)

  33. tony cynic Says:

    So that is 2 days in a row we have had the (r)sol shouting that we are all hell bound, How long til his brain implodes.
    I think it was the Discworld books that said anyone using more than 2 exclamation marks in a row was insane.

  34. Tony Provenzano Says:

    I see Solomon’s getting out of control, hope the fool doesn’t have access to any bombs.

    I think it was PEB who had a great suggestion a couple weeks back, ignore him.
    Unfortunately, idiocy does have its appeal.
    I’m even drawn in, wondering if he’ll say something even more silly than his previous statements.
    Unable to advance any arguments with reason or evidence (of course dogma is his only evidence), he reverts to his mindless and hopefully baseless (as far as he’s concerned) threats.

  35. The Heretic Says:

    I must admit, I avidly read every day (AQOTD) to see what non-sensical rantings and epithets are thrown around on this site. I am prouder than all get out to have been condemned to HELL on numerous occasions by people who belong to religions of peace. If only this hateful discourse only took place as words:

    2010.01.21 (Bajaur, Pakistan) – A woman is among three people blown to bits by an Islamic bomb.
    2010.01.20 (Karachi, Pakistan) – A woman 8-months pregnant is stabbed to death with an axe and dagger by her family for marrying against their will.
    2010.01.20 (Mosul, Iraq) – A suicide bomber injures over forty Iraqis, but manages to kill only himself.
    2010.01.19 (Jandola, Pakistan) – Islamic hardliners end the lives of two local soldiers with a bomb.
    2010.01.19 (Mohmand, Pakistan) – Religious extremists open fire on a peace committee, killing two members.
    2010.01.18 (Kabylie, Algeria) – Armed fundamentalists cut down a cop at point blank range.

    Of course, as Solomon has shown many a time, he doesn’t know what a reasonable discussion is. This is why his ilk resorts to such ungodly and evil violence.

  36. solomon Says:

    To ALL you Atheists,

    Have you had your curse? Now youre worry …

    “Your laughhh.. is your make up. You wear since your break up with truthhh…”

  37. brighter future Says:

    Now this was a fun day! Thank you for your entertainment…sometimes the irrationality of superstitious beliefs held by so many around me is so irritating! Thank you for the “Yawn” for Sol’s rants, thank you Greg for being more “sweary” with the extra R! Witty R U.