28th February 2010

“There is a huge irony in religious leaders constantly reminding us of the importance of the family, but then having no problem telling families their collective decisions must be trumped by non-evidenced religious beliefs.”

Alistair McBay

22 Responses to “28th February 2010”

  1. John Says:

    Is that anything like “family values”?

    I’ve always said, even when old “Gay Bobs” and “Jerry Fartwell” where out there crying for dollars; that family values was: “do as we say, not as we do”… now time to pay the preacher fools!”

  2. solomon Says:

    You keep on shouting.The preacher will always gets the loot.
    Wha….ka ka ka

  3. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    Original context:


  4. steve Says:

    The ironies are so pervasive they are no longer ironic, they are expected. Who better to give marital counseling than those who are not permitted to marry? Who better to counsel reality than those with imaginary footing?

    This was obviously a quote you folks know more about than I do.

    Not knowing the context of this quote, I thought I would shorten it.

    “There is… …irony in religious leaders… …telling… non-evidenced… …beliefs.”


  5. John Says:

    The preachers “non-evidenced religious beliefs” where once hailed as the great words of a god. Now the truth is allowed to be told and those words are falling on ears that are turned off to any notion of a god or a magical non-being. The preachers World wide are starting to fear as they are struggling and finding it harder to play that old god trump card in the game of life. Slowly they are losing the control of what’s in your underwear, your eyes and your thoughts and even in your wishes. In some of the more controlling cults, much to the preacher’s dismay, some current closet believers are quietly smiling as they wink at those old Dark Age notions at attempts to control ones life. Via FREE THOUGHT! Can you hear it now as it’s getting louder? 10 years ago you could not even hear the whisper!!

  6. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    Entirely fair.
    To the context of the quote – This seems to have been about religious objections to a mans decision to commit assisted suicide. First, the ethicality of such a situation is entirely dependent of the specific circumstances. Despondent but otherwise healthy teenagers: No. Terminal diagnoses with unquenchable pain and no quality of life: Yes.

    That representatives of a racket that has butchered millions have the cheek to weigh in on when a person in the latter state might choose to end their suffering is enough to make a cat laugh. There is a serious decision to be made here but it DOES NOT include the irrelevant platitudes of dress wearing celibate pedophiles.

  7. Holysmokes Says:

    This quote seems to an honest assessment of reality. I am constantly bombarded by Christian relatives making off-the-cuff comments such as; “Young people seem to have no morals. They should read their bible.” Gee, now there’s a great idea. No doubt the completely wonderful family oriented stories in the bible will correct any of these horrible moral modern day deficiencies. Right.

  8. PEB Says:

    Imagine how religious people must feel when they are desperately ill and in pain with no chance of recovery. They must think about taking their own lives but fear an eternity in damnation. The feeling of guilt must be overwhelming.
    The same goes for religious gay people who find themselves in loveless marriages and young religious girls who want an abortion.
    So much misery caused for very little benefit.

  9. steve Says:

    My mother-in-law died last year after an Alzheimer-like dementia. As she had been a life-long devout catholic, it was interesting to see the grasp of the church slip away as a matter of priority.

    She lost some of the ‘filters’ we employ in our speech in polite society, and started to say exactly what she meant, heedless of her audience. This caused great embarrassment to the family members who were clergy, and they tried to dismiss her thoughts as someone who lost her mind. She would look over at my wife and I and roll her eyes at their words.

    Odd, how the church and family stayed away until she died. Then they were the first ones there looking for cash.

  10. Greg Says:

    Well well well….I’ve been away from the blog for a while and see that a “pact” was made. Great news!

    I personally resolved some time ago to ignore a certain individual, so I think I’ve put in my 10 days already.

    And I agree that it’s much more amusing now when random rants pop up and are completely ignored! It’s like watching a crazy person walking down the street talking to themselves. The posts are so far out of context to the discussion that they’re hilarious!

  11. Greg Says:

    I can only imagine that it’s quiet here because Canada and the USA are playing for a gold medal at the Olympics in Vancouver.

    2-0 Canada, 2nd period.


  12. Holysmokes Says:

    Canada??? Where’s that? lol

  13. Greg Says:

    It’s that big, frozen wasteland just north of the US….

  14. PEB Says:

    Watching the game here in the uk. Firmly sat on the fence!

  15. Holysmokes Says:

    Yay overtime!

  16. steve Says:

    Greg, wish I could comment on that.

    But the game is now 2-2, so let’s see what happens, eh?

  17. steve Says:

    Canadia has won.

  18. CaptainZero1969 Says:


  19. solomon Says:

    Yeah….pretend to ignor me but can’t stand to have a peek from the corner of your eyes to see whats in store….
    You all have been day dreaming thinking the religous are losing control.Since Adam to Mohammad and till today where the the last hour is very near can’t you see that religous still stays and gaining popularity.Atheists beliefs will soon be a day dream thing.

  20. Greg Says:

    Sorry Captain! If it’s any consolation, that was one hell of a game. The US team has nothing to be ashamed of – they proved they belong among the elite. Kessler, Miller, Kane. C’mon, these guys are incredible! US hockey has a very, very bright future.

    I’m a hockey fan and that was some GREAT hockey, but, I’m also a Canuck and I loooove my hockey team!

  21. Greg Says:

    Damn….am I the only one celebrating the Canadian win???

    Anyone? Ok, KA! There, now you ALL have to take a drink!

  22. steve Says:

    Hey Greg – congratulations. Sounds like it was a pretty good game regardless of who won. Hmmm. Jamison, or Walker Blue…