30th March 2010

“Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor said Ruth Kelly's devout Catholicism must not be a barrier to her being minister for equality and promoting the interests of homosexuals. Barely a week later, and he was sacking his gay press secretary, because being homosexual was clearly a barrier to promoting Catholic interests.”

Alistair McBay

24 Responses to “30th March 2010”

  1. j sutton Says:

    There is an election coming up in the UK. We need to find out who the religious idiots are and refuse to vote for them. There is no room in my government for people who have imaginary friends and believe in risible fairy tales.

  2. Atheist MC Says:

    I’ve never really understood why gay people even want to be associated with most religions. I mean I know there are gay catholics and protestants and muslims, but why the hell would they want to align themselves to a philosophy that undermines their own nature.
    Mind you the same could probably be said of women. Religions are as misogynistic as they are homophobic.

  3. solomon Says:

    “There is no room in my government for people who have (imaginary friends and believe in risible fairy tales).”

    In bracket() the same old silly quote.Even get the spelling wrong {risible}.Theres no truth at all in the saying.

  4. solomon Says:

    Dear Atheist MC,
    Thats the beauty of religion.Some gays are gradually attracted to it and soon they will abandon those despicable acts.

  5. Atheist MC Says:

    Solomon. You’ve said some pretty daft things but this is first time you have been truly disgusting and immoral. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  6. Atheist MC Says:

    Even get the spelling wrong {risible}.

    You are hardly the most qualified person here to criticise spelling, but actually you’re wrong.

    RISIBLE = amusing: arousing or provoking laughter.

    Probably the first time you’ve heard the word so I’ll give you an example.

    “Solomon’s attempts to justify his twisted and sick beliefs are risible”

    Get it?

  7. Atheist MC Says:

    There is an election coming up in the UK. We need to find out who the religious idiots are and refuse to vote for them.

    Unfortunately even in the U.K politicians hold up religion to be a good reason to vote for them (Anne Widdecombe for example). Not as bad as in the states though.
    It would be interesting to know how many of them are closet atheists.

  8. Holysmokes Says:

    This quote is a typical example of the catholic church making a bare minimum effort regarding any kind of change, in order to pacify the masses. They only move on an issue when the resistance rises to the point where they find it intolerable.

    Solomon, kindly make it a priority to stop your peers from killing everyone. It’s much more imprtant then saying completely idiotic things in this forum, so please concetrate on your religion’s killers. Maybe your god will give you an attahboy and toss an extra virgin or two on the pile for you.

  9. solomon Says:

    Dear Atheists MC, If your clarification is not only for the purpose of bailing j sutton,so I seek a thousand apology to sutton by being a little carried away by my comments.I believe this mistake has its own hidden benefit.

  10. j sutton Says:

    I find this last comment ribisal.

  11. j sutton Says:

    Oh dear, a typo – though it is better to be a literary idiot than a religious idiot.

  12. steve Says:

    j sutton, don’t sweat the small stuff. So, you made a typo. At least your comments are thoughtful. Most of us can figure it out. Your contributions are appreciated.

    AMC, I agree, Sollie should be ashamed, but it is hardly the first time he has been truly disgusting and immoral. Just consider the source and move on – our thoughts and talents are wasted on that troll.

    As to the quote, it is clear that the church simply looks to marginalize and condemn anyone outside the sphere of their own little make believe world.

  13. steve Says:

    AMC, regarding your comment about not understanding why gay people would even want to be associated with religions, you are of course right, they should not want to be associated. But like most people who get marginalized, they want ‘to belong’. Our tribal roots are not that distant. At least that is how I look at this.

    People want to belong, even if we decry ourselves as independent. Gays are a small minority, and while I do not condone the abuses, I can understand why it has been hard for them to assert themselves into mainstream society.

    To me, it is more remarkable that half of the population – generations of women – have suffered the misogyny of judeo-christian-islam religions and still let the children be brainwashed. As both the traditional caregiver and the subject of the abuse, you would have thought they would have objected. (And yes, I recognize there are men involved in this process as well. Shame on those of us who let the situation continue.)

    We are far from civilized, and we are far from free.

  14. John Says:

    I protest… Yesterday, when I asked “Where is your helmet, sollie?” sollie responded that, “Its stucked right in your throat John.” Now with the topic today about religion and homosexuality and my understanding that solomon is male, I am getting confused and need a clarification. My inquiry yesterday was for sollie to make sure that the “BS safety guard” was in place as not to be hurt and I take sollie’s response to be a request for a homosexual act to be preformed. Now here is where I have a question, will I have to be one of the 4 witnesses at sollie’s sentencing before the “religion of love and peace” stones sollie for being homosexual? I read where the Nazi’s held those kinds of inquires during WWII right before you where shot. In the quran it translates: “When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes.” And “Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to.” Now, I am flattered old sollie (or should I now say sodie) and wink, wink, big guy… however, I have no use for your religion and sure as hell don’t want to be stoned for your activities… Well, stoned is cool if it comes from a hookah.

  15. Atheist MC Says:

    Barely a week later, and he was sacking his gay press secretary, because being homosexual was clearly a barrier to promoting Catholic interests

    By the way under U.K legislation this would be illegal and discriminatory for a secular organisation. But thanks to lack of courage by Harriet Harman MP it is O.K if you’re a church

  16. steve Says:

    AMC points out a harsh reality: the superstitious whackos get to play by different rules. UK and the states – we all have it wrong.

    John, I am not sure how to respond to your post. I feel as though I am insulting the insane when I group them with Sollie. Now would you have me make light of him by calling him gay? I get your point, and I get your humor, but I truly have no problem with gay people and would hate to paint them in the same light as Sollie. I know for a fact that there are lots of intelligent, rational gay folks out there, and I wish them no ill.

    Maybe we should reverse the trend here, and instead trying to mock Sollie by labeling him with names, we should call the other aberrant whack-jobs in the news “Sollies”.

    Anyone else notice how we have collectively been distracted by that troll again? Is it time for a thirty day moratorium?

    I promise -after this post- to have Zero response to Sollie during the month of April, under threat of a penalty exactly the same as last time.

    I will reserve the right to use the dread name in reference to someone else who deserves an insult of the highest magnitude. Anyone else? Other ideas?

  17. Atheist MC Says:

    Funny thing is it was only a week ago Sol claimed he had “won” (whatever that means in the context of a discussion about a daily quote) and was off to save souls elsewhere. Maybe everywhere else he tried was moderated more strongly.
    Yep. I’ll ignore the homophobic twerp for a while. At least until he posts a rational comment…oh wait!

  18. steve Says:

    AMC, I seem to do the same thing. Rule #1 for shorthand.

    Truthfully, I need to gain a little self respect and learn to quit feeding the troll. It truly is what I imagine crack cocaine addiction is like, with all the shame and by-products of a crack-whore.

    Please, please, I don’t wanna be no crack-ho no mo!

  19. Holysmokes Says:

    I’m in. In the words of Forrest Gump, “That all I’ve got to say about that.”

  20. Holysmokes Says:

    Of course that still leaves today and tomorrow. Hmmm, I guess that wasn’t all I had to say about that after all.

  21. John Says:

    ‘Apologies to all if I came off to strong and if you took offence to my attempt at dark humor. I guess that I may carry my disgust for preachers like he; that condemn folks out of their bottoms in one breath, all the while preaching how great they and their bile is. My defense is that I was wishing to bring to light that in islamic country’s homosexuals are stoned to death for just being…Period. If sollie is homosexual, then I am sorry homosexuals for your luck.

    I will under all possible penalties reframe from even the slightest response to that cesspool of an idiot for the entire month of April. Please never assume that I will or would insult any human that is gay or in any other minority or majority. No, I insult that perverted cult of anti-human sewage and the way of thought that allows that activity that that preacher of dome expels on all the viewers. My moratorium begins now. Wish me luck and thanks for letting me get that out.

  22. solomon Says:

    Theres nothing to be ashamed of folks.Mistakes is surely apt to happen sometime somehow.I will keep on commenting to deliver truth.

  23. solomon Says:

    Stop…! campaigning to sideline me from this post.It will be a dull forum between you all just nodding your head and agree with the silly ideas among yourself.It will not open your minds to other ideas that might bring some sense or beneficial to you all.It will be more challenging and lively.

  24. The Heretic Says:

    I am sticking to rule #1.

    That being said, I agree with steve. People want to belong, and sometimes they are indiscriminate about it. Although, I have noted that some of the harshest enforcement in religion comes from the women. I haven’t decided if it is brainwashed fanaticism, retribution, or sadism brought on by Stockholm’s Syndrome. Or maybe a combination of all three.