27th August 2010

“You do find goodness in people of faith, but the counter-instances blaze a gory trail through history.”

Barbara Gunnell

13 Responses to “27th August 2010”

  1. nomolos Says:

    The gory trail is to put things at the right place, before it becomes worse until there will no more be any form of controls, in other words a system breakdown which may result in disaster of the human race. See…the goodness in the system of faith.

  2. Gerg Says:

    Sure Nom, sure….

    I believe we should lay blame directly at the feet of the people who are gullible enough to believe what is written in a “good” book.

    Take, for example, the “christian brotherly love” that the so-called Christians in the USA are exhibiting toward their fellow Muslim citizens. Some love. The hatred being displayed is pathetic and makes one wonder just which passages of this “good” book they’re skimming.

    I’m confident that, given the freedom, these same “god fearing” and “loving” Christians would go on a killing rampage. The sort of killing rampage Muslim fanatics are well-known for….

  3. Dan Says:

    I think nomolos is being sarcastic. 😉

  4. Braathwaat Says:

    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. – Steven Weinberg

  5. edgarwing Says:

    Seems to me that, for many people, religious affiliation reflects an impulse to be “good” or to “do the right thing” without really having a clear sense of what this means. It’s a shame that people are willing to trade their brains for a “soul”. Then again, what’s a person with very limited brain capacity or critical thinking skills to do? It’s kind of hard to blame such a person for choosing a prepackaged moral system, flawed as it may be.

  6. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    I think, Edgar, that this is because the ‘good’ of the biblical god was demonstrated in mass-murder. I think it’s clear that, though the religious deny it, there is no objective morality in the bible but merely might-makes-right. This fact cannot be lost on the most fundamentalist of believers. If a loving god can justify murder and torture to advance her cause then are not such actions moral? She’s omni-benevolent after all.

  7. tech Says:

    Listen you guys, if you don’t believe God exists why spend so much time talking about him. I think most of you believe there is a God and your trying to brain wash yourselves in to believing there isn’t.

  8. captainzero1969 Says:

    Listen, Tech, if you really believe God exists, why do you spend so much time talking to people that have good reasons for not believing in Him? I think you actually have doubts about what you were taught and are trying to learn enough to give up your baseless faith.

  9. Wat Duino Says:

    A Christian chronicler, Fulcher of Chartres described the siege of Jerusalem in 1099: as the Crusaders burned Jews alive in their synagog, they (the Crusaders) sang “Christ we adore thee. Thee art our light, direction, our love”.

    Enough said.


  10. holysmokes Says:

    Captain, great comeback! LMAO

  11. YourSkepticalGuy Says:

    Indeed. And one cannot forget many wrongs by the religious, what seems to be an aside by so many: the mass executions by the church of “witches” – which included very young girls. Each generation of the church has some new crime against humanity – each implemented by too-willing individuals.

    “Thy darkness, oblivion, and worms shall consume me and rend me to cosmic dust.”


  12. tech Says:

    Caption Zero, I do believe God exists and I don’t spend enough time telling guys like you that I do.In the past as well as the present there has always been wars fighting and killing and many other crimes.Gods law is the same today as it was yesterday.It will never change.Good is good evil is evil.I’ll always knock evil as long as I live no matter who commits it. I’ll always praise good no matter who does it. Pretty simple huh.I guess its like it was said in a previous post I could be simple minded. So be it. Bless you all.

  13. GreatEighthSin Says:

    Ah, tech, but does “good” and “evil” actually exist? Or is it just personal perspectives on any given situation. Take murder for example. In today’s western society, murder is considered “evil”. Yet, if you take a look at politics, the act of raising a gun at another human being in war is not only “good”, but is celebrated. This party feel that their justification for war is “good”, but so does the opposing party feel that their justification for war is “good”. While the whole time the opposing parties are bent on calling each other “evil”. So, this just leaves with a hollow carcass of “murder is wrong, unless it’s not done onto our territory and our people.”

    So, is it truly “God’s law”, or is it the “devil’s law”. Or, maybe… just maybe.. it’s all human construct bent on nothing more than applying a veil of unrealistic blame to unrealistic magic. Yes, the answer can be that simple, because humans truly are that disgustingly simple.

    May God be-less.