5th October 2011

“Religion, while the base of our culture, may be the downfall of our civilization.”


8 Responses to “5th October 2011”

  1. R J Says:

    i am not at all sure religion deserves to be

    called the base of our culture. there are other components

    easily equal in weight, and far and away more


  2. archaeopteryx Says:

    Absolutely, R J.

  3. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Agreed R j. Non-religious organizations like pro-sports, old companies and their brands, Hollywood, and the variety of news outlets all play a significant role in forming the culture in the US.

    I think for most of the self professed faithful religion is but a sliver in their lives nor a basis. The Priest’s joke about the flock claiming to be on the team, but not showing up for practice, speaks to this.

    More and more I think we see a general decline in the religiousity of the great body of people and the outrageous floundering of the wild eyed and sociopathic fundamentalist in its true light.

    The nit-wit Rick Perry likely has shot himself in the foot with his simple minded comments about Creationism and Evolution. I don’t think the great body of ordinary religious people are ready to have Creationism supplant Evolutiion in the biology classroom (Save for some morons in the few most poorly educated states in the country).

    And it has to be this way. As peoples become more capable of militant actions, more destructive than ever before, divisive religious factions are the seedbed of the end times. Not in the religious sense, but in the sense that we can end human life on Earth. That were Jesus to return, no one will be here to greet him.

  4. CaptainZero Says:

    Significant disagreement with the quote. Religion is not the base of our culture. The religious love to claim it is. If anything, it has been an anchor on our culture, retarding our understandings and investigations into the natural world wherever and whenever it could get away with it and then morphing into something new when it couldn’t.

  5. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Cap’n I think you av something thar matey! Anchor is about as fair a metaphor as I’ve heard.

    I don’t know if anyone has been watching the Ken Burns Prohibition documentary on PBS this week but it shows explicitly the ilogical drag religion is on human existence.

    Not that I’m advocating boozing, its a nuerotoxin that damages the brain, but prohibition for religious reason makes no sense on any level. Studies have shown that a few drinks daily can help prevent heart related illness.

    Why is religion always so absolutist? So all or nothing? Wait a minute, isn’t that a bit like how religionistas act in the political sphere?

    Cap’n you have put your finger on the absolutist anchor in American culture.

    Pot on the other hand is a vasodialator that has particular benefit to people with high blood pressure, glaucoma, and other maladies where relaxing the walls of blood vessels would come in handy. It also elevates mood, eases tension and stress, and stimulates appetitie making it helpful for people with cancer, aids, and depression.

    Interesting in that science tells us to moderate the intake of these helpful substances while religion tells us to outlaw them.

  6. R j Says:

    SIN AT l80l

    i like the whole post….but let me speak to your last para.

    i dont care if it’s politicians, or religionistas damning

    drugs or alcohol………….they are NEVER going to shut

    down the market for this stuff. people LOVE their

    booze and drugs. now admittedly, mis-use of these

    substances causes problems…………but look at the

    numbers. the people mis-using and causing ancillary

    problems are a minority…………an expensive and

    dangerous minority, but still a minority. drugs and booze

    have been with us forever….and they’re GONNA be here

    in the future.

    you can bitch about them all you like…..and maybe

    even declare some of them illegal……but the flow

    will go on and on. and frankly, they’re as much a part

    of our culture as , say , marriage and divorce.

  7. CaptainZero Says:

    Sin(bad) – The Prohibition documentary is great but misses a part of the story. For the really really ugly side of prohibition, try reading The Poisoner’s Handbook: Murder and the Birth of Forensic Medicine in Jazz Age New York by Deborah Blum, a good part of which deals with the poison concoctions people drank (or were tricked into drinking by our government) during prohibition.

    Smoked pot in H.S. and have no problem whatsoever with those that do. Studies are pretty clear that the societal cost of pot are way lower than for alcohol but since our puritanical society is fixated on criminalizing and punishing other peoples choices, we’re left with an un-winnable and misguided war on drugs with enormous social costs.

  8. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Yeah R j when I think of the cost of prosecuting unjust drug laws it turns my stomach. Pot is the number one cash crop of the nation and the second largest industry. All attempts to discourage this have failed by any reaasonable measure. It is “high” time, if you will pardon the pun, to legalize, tax, and move onto real problems.

    Cap’n I’ll find the Blum book and give it a read. Here is the link for anyone else interested http://amzn.com/B004Z8LM3M