24th December 2011

“Christmas is a celebration antecedent to Christianity by many, many centuries. All religions co-opt local traditions and re-present them as uniquely authentic. I feel no twinges whatsoever in allowing the odd Christian to take part in our celebrations.”


15 Responses to “24th December 2011”

  1. captainzero Says:

    A bit late, though. The Solstice was Wed/Thur. Happy Solsticemas, fellow non-believers. The Sun is the reason for the season.

  2. Reason Says:

    Praise his solarshipness!

  3. Reason Says:

    Or hers… I suppose.

  4. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Well as this week featuring the winter solstice comes to an end, and as we have crossed this time threshold of days getting shorter to days getting longer again, I think it appropriate to take a moment to reflect back on a year discussing the many and varied atheist quotes.

    I feel grateful and validated by the many regulars here that confirm for me the very real, the very honest, the very decent.

    In this moment, as I prepare to transition my thoughts from what was to what will be, I wanted to say thank you all for the thought provoking and thoughtful comments you have shared.

    If I can extend my hopes to each and everyone of you I would like you all to know that what I’d like for all of you is everything you would want for yourselves.

    Best to all of you!

    PS Oh and as far as today’s quote? No Christian can ever share in this season what all of us have. There is no way to find what a Christian seeks as Christ was not born in December. The fact that there is no validation in this season for a Christian has been the unspoken question for Christians since it was first proposed.

  5. reetBob Says:

    Sinjin, thanks for giving me food for thought on my morning break at work. Please take my less elegant but reciprocal sentiment through the festive season.

    Thought provoking as always, I like this re-phrasing of the Golden Rule: “what I’d like for all of you is everything you would want for yourselves,” as it seems less flawed Jesus’s version.

    When Christians tell me how sad it is that Christ has been taken out of Christmas I take great delight in explaining how their festivals from Easter to Christmas, including All Hallows day and many more, have been celebrated since the invention of agriculture, long before the supposed birth of their God.

    The double-standards of the Christ Cult when it comes to their god’s importance in these festivals disgusts me, but it’s no longer a surprise.

    Have a great Christmas everybody

  6. Jeff Says:

    For all of us heathens, pagans, (and atheists) at this time of year, I humbly suggest Jackson Browne’s contribution to the Chieftains Xmas album, “The Bells of Dublin”. It’s entitled “The Rebel Jesus”, and while almost 20 years since it’s recording, it is still one of the freshest takes on the celebrations around this time of your.

    “I wish you pleasure and I wish you joy, on the birth of the rebel Jesus”

  7. n0m0l0s Says:


    You can rant anything from “rebel Jesus” or what…but religion still stays and prosper.

  8. Dan Says:

    Religion will stay? Maybe. But prosper? It doesn’t seem likely.

  9. n0m0l0s Says:

    The world is nearing to an end Dan, see religion is still dominant and always gaining popularity. You keep dreaming.

  10. archaeopteryx Says:

    Hi n0m0l0s. Would you give a prediction of when the world will end? Please?

  11. Data Says:

    Even for those of us who have no religion, I think that we can all appreciate time spent with our families and friends; arguing about other people taking the “christ” out of Christmas (which, as it was a pagan holiday originally, is a moot point) is petty and selfish.

  12. n0m0l0s Says:


    Its you who is acting selfish, always thinking of your circles of family and friends, while the religious always think of others, the helpless, the unfortunates and other kinds of human or non human problems.

  13. n0m0l0s Says:


    I have no predictions, even the prophet could’nt predict. But I have indications. One of them is the sun will rise from the west.

  14. Dan Says:

    You only have indications? Nonsense. From what I’ve seen, you only have delusions.

  15. Data Says:


    So all Christians are at their local charities today and not enjoying their time at home? And just because I don’t believe in your god, I don’t help people? Right.