28th February 2012

“I did not set out to convert anyone to Christianity. I wasn't trying to do what CS Lewis did. It is perfectly possible to live a very moral life without a belief in God, and I think it's perfectly possible to live a life peppered with ill-doing and believe in God.”

J. K. Rowling

6 Responses to “28th February 2012”

  1. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    99.9% of America’s prison population serve as evidence that it is indeed “perfectly possible to live a life peppered with ill-doing”.

    In a world too quick to identify ourselves as unworthy, or sinners, we waste time dealing with our self-image problems/a vain-glorious attempt at humility to conceal our arrogance.

    An atheist is often called arrogant, but fair and to the point, honest is a more accurate word.

    John Chapter 8 Verse 7 and the whole casting of the stone? No, I just call it like I see it. Damn me Jesus!

  2. The Heretic Says:

    I agree with her. People live a “life peppered with ill-doing” all the time because all they have to do is ask for forgiveness. Whereas atheists live a good life because it is the right thing to do. I hate that theists believe that atheists cannot possibly have a moral center. I wonder how they think they have one. Their gods are arrogant, petty, murderous, bad-behaved…..I guess I fail to see what morals there are to glean from this, except as a poster child of what not to be like.

  3. R J Says:

    YAY HERETIC !!!!!

  4. Scarlett Says:

    There are good people, there are bad people; there are theists, there are atheists. I do not think there is a connection. Morals are not a religious invention, they developed because humans are social animals and it is a good idea for people living in groups to be nice to one another. You are good (or bad) because you are human, not because you are religious.

  5. Data Says:

    Sinjin: “An atheist is often called arrogant, but fair and to the point, honest is a more accurate word.” I LOVE this sentence! I have found, personally, that you can never be honest and politically correct simultaneously. That’s how a lot of people end up in situations they dislike because they have to LIE about things or they’d be “impolite” or “insulting”. I will often have a thought and then realize it’s “arrogant”, but is it arrogant if it’s the truth?

  6. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Heretic I agree a “get out of jail free” card provides the space necessary for some to behave badly.

    Scarlett generally speaking, and for most of the situations ordinary people are getting in and out of, you are right, but as with the free pass on bad bahavior that Heretic speaks of, relgion has mechanisms that in some cases allow for some permissiveness with regard to bad behvaior and in others encouragment.

    I agree learned social boudaries exist in most if not all animal populations: Hardly unique to humans. It is clear though that some people are very bad because of their religious convictions. Whether it is that simpleton burning Koran’s in Florida or the idiots in Afganistan shooting soldiers for Korans accidentally being burned. Meatheads blowing themselves up in front of the Federal Building in Oklahoma or at bus stops in Isreal. I just don’t find the shear volumes of these kinds of stories also involving atheists.

    The limitations of writing here have me treading on causality and I respect that, but when was the last time the even news led off with some wild eyed atheist murdering, raping, stealing, assaulting, et cetera anyone? How often does that happen? Why are the prisons nearly completely populated by self professed religious people? Too many coincidences right?

    Data I’m known to be opinionated and I’m going to admit to having stepped on toes for not being politically correct. I don’t overtly seek to insult people and I do try to phrase statements in the least offensive way, but ultimately I’ve offended people. I will say that the number of people who couldn’t handle my comments has been few. Or at least it seems that way to me. All my friends and neighbors are people of faith, I only know of one other atheist personally. Glad you liked the sentence, I fancy myself a wordsmith and your feedback is appreciated.