24th November 2012

“The dependence on the secrecy of the sacrament of penance to hide violations and assure easy forgiveness facilitates repetition and recidivism of sex crimes rather than reform of behaviour.”

Richard Sipe

9 Responses to “24th November 2012”

  1. R j Says:

    oh yes.

  2. Capt'Z Says:

    I assume that child raping priests get regular ‘absolution’ for their crimes. The demand for secrecy thus spreads their crime to their confessor who in all other spheres would have a moral obligation to turn them in. What an evil edifice Catholicism has erected.

  3. Kittie Says:

    It is copied with the treatment of bullies. They take them behind closed doors and give them a little lecture. And then turn them loose on the victim to double down on the nastiness. Instead of publicly shaming and humiliating them.

    I read something about shame and humiliation being the only thing that could change the cultural practice of defecating in the open in India. The knowledge that it caused deaths due to the spread of so much bacteria… and people literally ingesting it… did not do this, but shame did.

  4. R J Says:


    well, i think you’re generally right….but remenber, shame really only

    works if you actually give a damn what anyone thinks of you…or

    your actions. (( like ”morning after ” victims ))

    also, dont forget : the RCC is funded by millions in contributions

    from the faithful………..so some serious character damage can

    result in a bad drop in revenues .

    answer ? cover up the screw-ups .

    captain z is right……it IS an evil edifice.

  5. Dan Says:

    Forgiveness for some deeds should never be given lightly, and true remorse should be a requirement for it.

    In Catholicism however………..

  6. Jeff Says:

    This reminds me of a quote from the First Lord of the Admiralty who was appointed to the post on 3 September 1939, the beginning of WW II.

    “Don’t talk to me about naval tradition. It’s nothing but rum, sodomy, and the lash.” Winston Churchill

    Remember, the man who said that was greeted by the fleet he would lead from that day forward with three words: “Winston is back”.

    Wonder when a pope will say something similar about the pedophiles?

  7. Kittie Says:

    R J – sociopaths may not care what others think but everyone I know cares about what someone thinks – there is evidence for it in their lives and actions. That encompasses most people.. nothing is foolproof…

  8. Kittie Says:

    I care what you think.

  9. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Sometimes I don’t think I need to make a point, you know about the institutionalization of pedophilia that is the church thing?