7th March 2013

“As an atheist who served I can tell you the [US] military shoves religion down your throat every chance they get. Every ceremony has a prayer. It is ridiculous. Some of us were there to serve our country, not your god. Religious people need to get over themselves. If it works for you, great, but quit trying to force it on the rest of us.”


9 Responses to “7th March 2013”

  1. Kit Says:

    That is everywhere. The epitome of stupidity in christianity today was a friend begging for prayers for her 14 year old dog to get well…. and later after a trip to the vet she dutifully wrote back about how good god was and thanking everyone for the prayers… really. I am pretty sure god made no provisions or souls for dogs – William Lane Craig doesn’t even think they are capable of knowing that they are experiencing pain…

    I love my dog – more than many people I know… so one of my first problems with christianity was the idea that they did not have souls or go to heaven… and I was just a little kid… and I knew that was a jacked up place to be.

  2. The Heretic Says:

    I don’t remember seeing that in the military. Further, you could opt out of any religious anything as a rule. I would never object to any type of prayer, in my presence, if it reassured someone or gave them hope or comforted them in some way. To each thier own. It doesn’t hurt me at all.

    As to a dog having a soul? I find, as a rule, that they have more of a soul than humans do. I much prefer the presence of a dog to a human. They are good conversation{grin}, and generally quite pleasant.

  3. R J Says:


    i prefer the company of cats, otherwise , i completely agree .

  4. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    I’ve told this story here before, about how when I was beginning my Naval service I was asked about my religion. I told them I was an atheist, that I had no belief in gods or supernatural mumbo jumbo. They said I couldn’t claim that, they said I had to choose something to which I ask what they had. The best thing they would agree to is NO REL PREF. So my dog tag is stamped with NO REL PREF. I’d have chosen NO REL BELIEF

    I do agree with today’s quote and I would characterize the presentation of faith in the service as “shoves religion down your throat every chance they get”.

  5. Kit Says:

    My husband served 9 years..brother served.. dad a WW2 veteran… they always trot out the “no atheists in foxholes” statement…

    It is everywhere…. new soccer coach has the girls doing something before the game…. looks like a prayer – I don’t know… but am I going to be the one who says.. anything about it – hell no – that group would string me up. I think the same goes many places – they get away with forcing prayer and worship – it is almost a dare to stop me – thing. For just the reasons Heretic mentioned – they get away with it… who am I to stop their self-comforting… or in my case – I know the reprecussions and ostracization is just not worth it.

  6. R J Says:

    KIT AT 1821

    i agree with your decision…..what is really the point of getting into

    it with the faith people ???

    you’re not gonna change their mind, and they’re not gonna change yours.

    just recently i was sitting with a guy i know to say “hello” to…and that’s

    about the extent of our interaction.

    in the course of our conversation, he told me he had to get home

    because he was going to run a bible study group at his home.

    he went on to tell me that the focus of his group was to base all

    studies on ,” the one great truth….that jesus christ had died on the cross

    for our sins.”

    now i COULD have got into it with him…but WHY? i think he’s fulla

    crap….but so what . he’s nothing to me…….so , all in all, i would

    rather avoid the strife. i told him to have a good evening…and left

    it at that.

  7. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    I tell people I’m not religious but I don’t make a big deal about it. I mean I don’t like it when some Jehovah’s Witness nut comes to the door passing out pamphlets so I don’t ram my disbelief down their throats.

    I don’t care about stigma and I’ll too big/type A to be ostracized. Honest people know I’m a good guy, anyone else doesn’t matter.

  8. Sinjin Smythe Says:

    Oh an Kit, in the Persian Gulf during the Iran Iraq War, I openly challenged god to strike me dead. I verbally blasphemed god to my shipmates and for the most part the only thing I got was a few laughs. God apparently is so weak and impotent that he couldn’t stop me let alone punish me. I have always denied the existance of the holy spirit, in war zones, in churches, and in just about every environment I’ve ever been in.

  9. Dan Says:

    Yeah, I avoid the conversation usually too – sometimes because I don’t want to be ostracized, sometimes because I assume the person will freak out and make a scene, and sometimes because I’d just as soon not get into a conversation with a complete moron. Which one it is depends upon the other person and the circumstances.

    What really gets me going though is when someone who had thought was a bit intelligent goes and starts saying things that are 100% ignorant – probably because I expected more from that person and the stupidity comes as a shock.