8th May 2008

“Only a true believer can make a dirty word of 'rationalism', but then, reason is the natural enemy of faith.”

Herbert B. Livesey

6 Responses to “8th May 2008”

  1. Chris Says:

    Reminds me of one of GWB’s aides dismissively referring to the “reality based community”. It’s a badge of honor to belong. I have also heard them speak disparagingly about “naturalist” world views and how science is the “enemy of god.” If they really believed this, all their kids would have polio, there would be no reason for mosquito abatement, and indeed why even have a hospital if every treatment they could offer was some sort of affront to god.

    In capitalism, people vote with their feet. If there is any truth at all to this then it is obvious that the people that are in that camp are actually small in number and are in fact considered weird and cultish by the mainstream. Every so often one of their kids dies from a fever or some other easily treatable ailment and we all stop calling them “devout” and “faithful” and call them what they really are – child abusing nut-jobs.

  2. Chris Says:

    Moderator – love the essay of the week.

  3. Critic Says:

    reason is the natural enemy of faith

    A true, concise, and compelling summary of the rational naturalist world view.

    I don’t think that science is the enemy of god (since god does not exist), but it is the enemy of religion – and religion typically has more to do with human greed, lust for power and domination of the weak than it does with god.

    Therefore, reason, rationalism and science are the enemies of demagogues (religious or otherwise).

    (Let’s just leave god out of it since it is an imaginary construct not worthy of rational thought.)

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  5. Hammy Says:

    Great quote

  6. Terence Meaden Says:

    “Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and … know nothing but the word of God.” Martin Luther.

    “The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.” Benjamin Franklin (Poor Richard’s Almanac, 1758)