21st January 2010

“So-called 'intelligent design' is neither science nor art, and is thoroughly discredited by all who have any aspirations to critical thought, so better to consign it to the backwaters of history along with alchemy and the flat Earth society.”

Frank Rennie

25 Responses to “21st January 2010”

  1. Bornagain A. Theist Says:

    Plainly stated, “Intelligent Design” is neither intelligent nor design. Like physics which plays the actual role in the explanation of our current state of being, it is completely mindless – exactly like its proponents.

    Indeed it is a throwback to the “backwaters”.


  2. John Says:

    If there was a god, would there be any reason to have one explained; for would not it just, be?

  3. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    Since the Dover decision, the forces of creationist bullshit have been fairly quiet and I’m sure sales of “Of Pandas and People” have fallen way off. But don’t think for a minute that they’ve given up trying to teach our kids that The Flintstones was a documentary.

    Google “creationism” and “fossil” and you’ll see how these poor misguided f-tards are constantly trying to find a way to spin scientific discovery to fit their dim witted creationist dogma.

  4. Greg Says:

    If it is “intelligent design”, explain Solomon.

  5. Atheist MC Says:

    I’ve often thought that it would be worth Biology teachers touching on Intelligent Design in class, if only to teach a little philosophy of science and get students to understand why I.D is unfalsifiable and therefore NOT science.

    BTW my favorite argument FOR creationism, is the one where God created the world to look as though it evolved over billions of years. Fundies think this is a killer argument but you can then tie them up in all sorts of theological knots about the ethics of their pet deity.

  6. The Heretic Says:

    The problem with “our camp” based totally on science is that sometimes science can have an agenda behind it. Global Warming and ClimateGate for instance. The “science” was shoved down the world’s throats by environmentalists, politicians, and celebrities. Their “science” had more of a religious ferver than a scientific basis, and scientific method was eschewed completely. Thankfully, it is being debunked as we speak. Religions can now, rightly, point to science as not being the end all be all. This is our fault. Many of us (not me) are complicit in this setback. When people cannot trust science and scientists, where else do they look for the answers that they seek? We need to do a better job of policing our science and our scientists or we will lose our credibility. What will be the end result of that for atheists?

  7. Talnoy Says:

    If “intelligent design” were true then the designer was pretty friggin dumb to design us as the species that has come to dominate the earth…. Just look at us – war, famine, death, half the world is so jaded they don’t care about the other half suffering and dying. Real intelligent to design something like that.

  8. Atheist MC Says:

    Thankfully, it is being debunked as we speak. Religions can now, rightly, point to science as not being the end all be all.

    I think this is overstating it although I agree creationists will latch on the the global warming controversy as an poor example of science. I disagree that the science is bad by the way, but I do agree it has been oversold.

    For a nuanced look at the way creationists use science there is a relevant post on Daylight Atheism today.

  9. Bornagain A. Theist Says:

    Excellent commentary, Heretic, and spot on with the global warming reference. Rational people, unlike “Hollywood” Gore, have known from the first mention of “global warming” that this earths temperatures run in cycles and that we can periodically expect warming and cooling.

    Your mention of “religious fervor” drew my attention to the situation in Haiti. Science, only science, and no amount of prayer or missionary work (other than funds, which have nothing to do with magical, invisible entities) is going to provide help to Haiti. But BECAUSE of the “religious fervor”, religion is going to get a lot of undeserved credit when all is said and done. Y’all may already know that “Focus On The Family” has chimed in with Pat Robertson in proclaiming that Haiti never had a chance since the place just seethes with sin. I doesn’t get much stupider than that.

    Are you, perhaps, a scientist? Your “many of us (not me)” reference moved me to ask.


  10. Alavi Hossain Says:

    teaching intelligent design would be like teaching about demon possession in medical school. the only reason why intelligent design seems more valid is due to Christianity’s institutionalization. Leave it out of the science classrooms.

  11. Oxymoronic Christhinker Says:

    Best comment so far today is from Greg, and I quote: “If it is “intelligent design”, explain Solomon.” Any other comments are superfluous. Why try to improve on perfection? 🙂

  12. solomon Says:

    Dear Frank Rennie,

    “Intelligent design is more than science or art , has nothing to do with backwaters of history or with alchemy and the flat Earth society. Its just an excuse for one to run away from a simple truth.”


  13. solomon Says:

    Dear newcomer Talnoy ,

    Now youre simply accusing god of all the miseries cast upon human.Do you ever wonder or thought for a while what god have done all this while.God have supplied all kinds of foods to all sorts of creatures for trillions & trillions of years without desupplying it for a single second.

    The war, famine, death is the result of the human hands.God did’nt ill-treat humans, its the human who ill-treat themselves.God have given human choice,but humans always chose the wrong one. There should be some sort of laws governing everything. Even on earth you are binded by some sort of rules for the bettermans of society. Its the result of humans taking the laws on their own hands that resulted in cruelties or wars.Even in the animal kingdom there is a set of rules abide by them.Did’nt biologist Dawkins thought you this?

    Now don’t simply have bad thoughts about god.Its fortunate that this intelligent designer does not design your nose upside down or transform you into a bacteria for you to swim around inside a piece of shit. Have a thought about that.

  14. Greg Says:

    “trillions & trillions of years”?????? Are you freakin’ kidding me, Sol??

    Snap Quiz: how old is the universe?

    A. 6000 years
    B. 14.2 billion years
    C. 10,000 years
    D. 1,000,000,000,000,000 years (or multiples of this number)

    If you chose A you’re a moron
    If you chose B you paid attention in science class
    If you chose C you may have slept through science class
    If you chose D you’re Solomon and will believe pretty much anything written in a book dictated by an ig’nant tribesman

  15. solomon Says:

    Dear Greg,

    Prove it to me how old is the universe???

  16. Greg Says:

    I read it in a book.

  17. Greg Says:

    Actually, a unicorn told me.

  18. Greg Says:

    Actually, it was the unicorn that wrote the book. It was dictated to him by a illiterate weasel.

  19. Greg Says:

    The weasel was TEN FEET TALL and had beautiful fur and long wrists. His eyes were as brown as….bark.

  20. solomon Says:

    Dear Greg,

    Actually I don’t have to react to your comments at all coz I did not mention anything regarding the age of the universe.

  21. solomon Says:

    Dear viewers,

    There you see, Greg just can’t proove what he just denied. Would you believe in someone like this dude?

  22. Greg Says:

    Huh? What did I deny, Sol? What fucking colour is your sky, dude?

    Ok, simple quest for you Sol: Prove that a unicorn didn’t dictate the age of the universe to a 10 foot weasel who wrote it in a book.

    C’mon Sol. Prove me wrong. Dare you.

  23. solomon Says:


  24. Greg Says:

    Why, Sol?

    Prove that unicorns don’t exist? The great Weasel says that you will rot in the ground for all eternity if you don’t believe that the unicorn was sent to save your soul and spread the word of Weasel.

  25. Greg Says:

    Don’t you believe in unicorns Sol? Why not?