12th April 2010

“The church doesn't want to deal with humans as they are. It sets up a fantasy notion of what humans should be and judges people on that. It's a horrible attitude, like condemning your own child for being less than perfect.”


24 Responses to “12th April 2010”

  1. John Says:

    I.e. fantasies are always perfect and the real world is not…

  2. solomon Says:

    Its you that is living in fantasy but you don’t realize.

  3. Atheist MC Says:

    I’m not sure this is true. The Xian religion actually assumes people are less than they are;fallen, tainted with originl sin, guilty until made innocent by the lamb o god. This is one of the things I find most repugnent about it.

  4. solomon Says:

    Dear Atheist MC,
    You don’t have to crack your head thinking of other silly fake gods.Do a research to the only true god Allah.You won’t find any silly or foolish concepts.

  5. Atheist MC Says:

    But Sollie. Christ is a prophet and redeemer in the Islamic religion too, are you saying the Qu’ran is wrong on this point?

  6. tech Says:

    Solomon why are there so many violent deaths in your country in the name of allah? Does the Qu’ran teach you to do that?

  7. John Says:

    It is like in the movie Jesus Christ Superstar, we all know that the jets and tanks where part of the fantasy stories of the bible.

  8. steve Says:

    Not sure which church this quote refers to; I guess it really does not matter.

    The concept seems universal to the larger superstitions.

    I would comment today, but first I need to:
    1) Profess my faith, “I Love Doughnuts!”
    2) Pray for some doughnuts!
    3) Fast. OK, the prayer did not produce any doughnuts. I guess I will have to fast.
    4) find some ‘alms’ to give away. The original meaning of ‘alms’ was ‘pity’. I pity those poor infidels without doughnuts!
    5) I am off on a road trip to a beautiful Mecca called Dunkin’ Doughnuts, where a virginal beauty will sell me coffee. I am gonna hold out for prayer to get me the doughnuts.

    Good thing that there are no silly or foolish concepts in Doughnutry.

  9. tech Says:

    No just on just on the Atheists Quod. I have come to the conclusion that the Athiests on this site could start their own religion. A good name for it would be the Morons.

  10. Atheist MC Says:

    called Dunkin’ Doughnuts, where a virginal beauty will sell me coffee.

    You obviously go to a different “church” to me.
    May you always have sprinkles.

    Athiests on this site could start their own religion. A good name for it would be the Morons.

    Indeed we could and it would be every bit as true as every other religion. I think the Morons would be a good name as anyone who believed it would have to be ( actually I think the LDS intended to use the name first but didn’t have a spellchecker).

  11. steve Says:

    Now Tech, let’s be civil. I can certainly act moronic, but I see that you can act that way as well. Let’s move up a level, shall we?

    A lot of these quotes are merely truisms, and leave little to add.

    My post above was to use today’s AQOTD and islam’s 5 pillars as an example. If you take any superstition to its rational conclusion it gets pretty silly. I used Cap’n’s Doughnutters as an example; if that offends you, too bad. Why not enjoy life? It is the only one you will have.

    We would not have to be silly to prove a point. Offer up something better than name calling or god-botting and we can converse on any level you would like.

  12. The Heretic Says:

    By telling people that they are sinners and ‘less than perfect’ is just a way to drum up business. Where would they be if it was okay to be flawed and human? Can’t have that. That is why there is Original Sin, so that way you are condemned from birth and only they can save you. Oh, and they need your cash too.

  13. steve Says:

    “You obviously go to a different “church” to me.
    May you always have sprinkles.”

    AMC – it is my “power user” volume discount!

  14. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    A new reason to disdain fundamentalists is that they have absolutely no sense of humor. Geeze, Tech. What, did they run out of coffee and cigarettes at the 12 step meeting?

    Cap’n Z – proud Moron. I actually prefer l’idiot (pronounced lee-dee-ohh)

  15. Alavi Hossain Says:

    how would atheism become a religion, tech? u clearly have no concept of religion, no wonder you follow the one you do so blindly. atheism is not a belief system, it’s simply the rejection of a god or gods.

    in regard to this quote, einstein says it perfectly with “A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.” is it really that difficult to do good without having to fear a red, naked, humanoid with a trident? i know i dont need that nonsense in my life to feel empathy for a struggling companion.

  16. steve Says:

    …and, if the point needed to be proven further… …it was the christians that broke out the violence – again.

    In 1990, News of the Weird reported on a “cargo cult” on Tanna, one of South Sea islands comprising the republic of Vanuatu. “Cargo” comes from the cults’ belief that the food and supplies that Americans brought to World War II military staging areas arrived by divine guidance, and they continued to worship the empty cargo containers long after the war was over, hoping their prayers would restock them. In May 2004, according to a report in the Sydney Morning Herald, violence broke out on Tanna when breakaway Christians, calling the cargo business nonsense, fought with supporters of “John Frum,” the iconic American who symbolizes continued worship of cargo lockers. About 25 people were hospitalized, and police had to be dispatched from Vanuatu’s capital of Vila. [Sydney Morning Herald-Sun-Herald Magazine, 5-9-04]

  17. solomon Says:

    Dear tech,
    Is it really you asking me those questions or some imposter?

  18. solomon Says:

    Dear steve,

    Would you like the sensations of a blazing Doughnut from Hell?

  19. Atheros Says:

    Hmmm Sweet Habenero Doughnuts 🙂 Love ’em!

  20. John Says:


    With man creation of god… I guess god is asking…

  21. solomon Says:

    Dear Atheists MC,

    Qoran will at any instance can’t be wrong.Its the other books that is wrong.Jesus was just a prophet.

  22. solomon Says:

    Dear Atheros,

    Wait till the Doughnuts cooks your throats.

  23. solomon Says:

    Dear tech,
    If it is really you, this is my answer.First I live in a lovely peaceful country where firecrackers is even not allowed to be played during festive seasons.Not to think of explosions or bombs, theyre too far off our imagination to happen here.So youre just confused at which part of the earth I’am at.
    Secondly not to worry on those deaths happenings. Its just a normal daily chore that happens all around the world that goes unpublicised by the hypocrates whose only agenda to tarnish Islam onto the eyes of others.

  24. solomon Says:

    Dear John,

    Tell me in what way man could have created the true God Allah if you say so?